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Re:1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness a... by stabbles on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @05:23AM (#34516641)
Do you have references for this? My understanding is that low heart rate training is still standard for elite endurance athletes.
Re:1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness a... by fsloth on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @07:11AM (#34517317)
How many people benefitting from more exercise are elite endurance athletes?
Re:1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness a... by PaulHoule on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @08:13AM (#34517844)
You might not want to emulate elite endurance athletes in that they get too much of a good thing…. That kind of training puts you at risk of atrial fibrillation.
Re:1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness a... by kritiko on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @11:03AM (#34519934)
A recent study on this encourages exercise regardless.

https://openheart.bmj.com/content/9/2/e002154

> Conclusion: Although older male endurance athletes experienced an increased risk of AF, the long-term risk of stroke was substantially reduced compared with non-athletes.

Re:1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness a... by mattwest on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @11:54AM (#34520710)
True, but I think the commentor is referring to the U-shaped relationship of AF and endurance training.

Higher probability with zero exercise, lowest probability at moderate exercise, but an increase in probability as you enter the extreme territory. In my case, 1000+ hours/year for 8 years led to this outcome

Re:1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness a... by mattwest on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @11:50AM (#34520641)
PAFIYAMA. Happened to me at 27yo. Thankfully ablation solved the problem and I'm more or less "cured". Interestingly, I had many ectopic beats post-surgery which subsided once I regained my old fitness level.
Re:1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness a... by tonystubblebine on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @08:03AM (#34517744)
I actually think there's a bit of a split at the elite level.

Eliud Kipchoge, WR in marathon, seems to only be doing one hard faster than race pace workout each week. Call that the HIT. The others are slow or race pace. What actually stands out most to me is the specificity of running close to a race pace marathon every week. https://www.sweatelite.co/eliud-kipchoge-a-typical-week-of-t...

Then on the other end of the spectrum, the Ingebrigsten family of runners seems to put an emphasis on quality. But even though they do more faster running they keep a lid on the intensity to avoid training to exhaustion. It actually reminds me more of the "Grease the Groove" concept where the faster running may be more for neurological reasons. https://www.outsideonline.com/health/running/culture-running...

Anyway, neither of these two training models seem to have much in common with HIT. The bulk of the workouts are easy intensity and they are both seemingly ware of the dangers of high intensity. That's where injuries come from and so there can't be too much of it.

Re:1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness a... by seafoam on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @08:33AM (#34518035)
the specificity of running close to a race pace marathon every week

Suspect that this is also for neurological reasons

Re:1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness a... by SamoyedFurFluff on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @08:53AM (#34518216)
The vast majority of that WR in marathon is doing low intensity long runs every day with only one day dedicated to race pace. That still broadly strikes me as primarily low-intensity training.
Re:1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness a... by wooger on Friday January 27, 2023 @07:05AM (#34545112)
Well, it's polarised training specifically. Either really low, or very intense.
Re:1min high-intensity exercise 3x a week improves fitness a... by eloff on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @08:20AM (#34517914)
Training endurance is likely a very different regimen than training for most types of sports.