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Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by paxys on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @08:27PM (#34513138)
There's nothing "privileged" about working at Google. It's a job, like anything else in tech.
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by mediaman on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @08:36PM (#34513226)
Given median comp at Google, working at Google is quite privileged.

Going to Stanford is likewise privileged.

Being privileged isn't an insult, just a recognition of fact.

Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by paxys on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @08:45PM (#34513308)
By that logic everyone in the world is privileged compared to those earning 5% less than them, including every person here complaining about a Google employee's privilege. So what does that word mean exactly?
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by sanedigital on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @09:41PM (#34513700)
With a few exceptions, everyone here on HN is wildly privileged. The .0001% of world-history.
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by postalrat on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @09:35PM (#34513674)
A wise woman once said: "Now is the envy of all of the dead"
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by nerdponx on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @08:55PM (#34513382)
Yes
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by galactus on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @09:42PM (#34513704)
If you go to the other extreme no one but the richest person on earth is priviledged.

Come on, making 300k a year or more is privilege even within the context of US white collar jobs.

Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by paxys on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @09:47PM (#34513750)
Regardless of the number, getting paid for your labor & skills is not "privilege". Employees at Google are getting fleeced by the corporation and its shareholders just like the rest of us are by ours. Remember the big tech poaching scandal from a decade ago (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...)?
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by gretch on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @09:00PM (#34513425)
> just a recognition of fact

It's literally not a fact, it's an opinion.

Hey what's your job? You don't need to tell me. But I'm gonna go ahead and say you're privileged compared to a rural chinese farmer that has never held a phone.

Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by sgtnoodle on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @09:48PM (#34513753)
That farmer might be happier though.
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by prewett on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:22AM (#34514722)
Given how many of them leave their kids with the grandparents and move to Guangdong, etc. to work in the factories and live in bunk houses and send money back home, only seeing their kids once a year during Spring Festival, I think they might not be content. (On the other hand, I guess the ones still farming would be happier, by virtue of self-selection.)
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by Gibbon1 on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:26AM (#34514739)
Chinese farmer probably has higher data rates on his phone for less per month.
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by red-iron-pine on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @09:42AM (#34518777)
And isn't allowed to play gatcha games or WoW anymore
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by ismokedoinks on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:20AM (#34514709)
Welcome to Maoism-Third Worldism comrade
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by mediaman on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @11:36AM (#34520432)
Privilege is necessarily a comparative concept.

Most people in America are privileged compared to a rural Chinese farmer.

The median Google employee is privileged compared to average American citizens.

It's healthy to acknowledge this.

Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by gretch on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @03:21PM (#34523621)
I didn’t deny it actually.

The real healthy thing is to acknowledge what are facts and what are not facts.

A ball is moving 15 mph. Is the ball moving fast or slow?

Btw, you're whole framework for 'privileged' is broken because it's a binary condition and 1 dimsenional.

Check out this incident where a profession NBA player was harassed by the policy simply for being black: https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/us/sterling-brown-milwaukee-s...

He makes millions every year playing basketball. Is he privileged?

Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by hsn915 on Thursday January 26, 2023 @06:13PM (#34540213)
Yes he is.
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by mc32 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @09:52PM (#34513786)
If you ask the people who were gentrified out of the mission when FAANGers decideed the Peninsula wasn't cool and would move into the Mission, if FAANGers are privileged or just a regular joes and janes, I'm pretty sure I can predict their answer.
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by paxys on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @10:02PM (#34513873)
Ask the rest of the planet and they'll call these mission hipsters equally privileged.
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by mc32 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @10:17PM (#34513954)
Relative to COL, it depends. I mean sure, If they moved to King City, maybe? But then why all the complaints about SF affordability if the answer is "move to a locale where your income allows you to afford rent without rent control" --if you can find a job"
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by hsn915 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:25PM (#34514395)
Earning $200k/yr without doing anything special is a privilige very few people in the world get to enjoy.

I have no sympathy for these people.

Learn a real skill and do something useful.

Before you jump and say they do have a skill: why are they whining then? People who have skills don't whine when they are laid off. They just go and find another place to work.

The fact that they need to whine so loudly about it tells you everything you need to know: they have nothing of value to contribute, or they were getting paid many times more than their skill is actually worth.

Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by paxys on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:33PM (#34514444)
And I bet you think your $50K/$100K/$150K or whatever else salary is perfectly justified and you are adding great value to the world. Why is that? Or will you admit that you are privileged as well?
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by hsn915 on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @01:11AM (#34514982)
I have admitted multiple times on HN and elsewhere that I don't think anything I've done in my career has been particularly valueable or useful to society.

I totally own it. I not only don't complain about being "laid off". I often quit jobs myself and spend some "gap" time doing nothing before I find the next job.

Currently I'm not working for anyone because I'm sick of all tech jobs.

Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by paxys on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @03:09AM (#34515693)
Okay then I guess everyone on the planet with a steady job is privileged. What about the business/corporate class? Do you think they have more or less privilege than their workers?
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by PenguinCoder on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @07:31AM (#34517471)
> Often quit jobs myself and spend some "gap" time doing nothing

That is a privilege that not many people can afford, especially lower income workers. You're speaking from an enviable position of privilege while complaining about others having privilege. Perspective.

Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by hsn915 on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @08:58AM (#34518275)
What makes you think I'm "whining" about anything?
Re:Why the Google layoffs are about personal ambition and po... by PenguinCoder on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @10:15AM (#34519198)
Typically when you use "quotes" it means you're using the same exact words that someone stated. I didn't say you were "whining", I said you were complaining. And you were.