Re:Survival Guide:IRC
by googletron on Tuesday January 10, 2012 @02:32PM
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The format of the idiocy is showcased in the same way, and general idea is the same, humility. I wouldn't go as far as to say it was plagiarized though. Thanks for the constructive input though :)
Re:Survival Guide:IRC
by j45 on Tuesday January 10, 2012 @03:18PM
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Where was this guide in 1993?
So many bot wars.. could have been avoided.
It's nice to see it though in IRC terms, though. The point about being able to post, and then wait for an answer is important. Sometimes we want a quick answer and can't get it on IRC. Each channel has it's own activity level and culture and it's important to know how different channels work.
What's interesting to me is the extent to which IRC support and discussion of technical (programming) topics has been taken over by StackOverflow.
This is admittedly anecdotal, but I often see people refer questioners to SO entries as the answer to something and I've had more success getting answers to things by posting a SO question and then throwing the URL for that into an IRC channel than trying to establish everything in the channel itself.
Maybe SO is just acting like a pastie.org that you can also get answers to.
Re:Survival Guide:IRC
by avb_wkyhu on Tuesday January 10, 2012 @04:16PM
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I'm interested, what OS are you running and what don't you like about irssi? I have irssi running on a Micro Instance of EC2 with very little added to the config and not only do I love it, but when I'm AFK and someone privatemessages me it opens up in another window and saves it, if someone highlights me it gives me a signal in the terminal, etc. I find irssi + urxvt amazingly amazing for IRC.
Re:Survival Guide:IRC
by cturner on Tuesday January 10, 2012 @04:25PM
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sorry - I sometimes delete comments minutes after posting them if I subsequently decide they're low value.
Your post came in as I deleted. Thanks for response, I'll pick it up.
> what OS are you running and what don't you like
> about irssi?
I use linux console via putty. The way I have it configured I have a window at the top that traps comments from any channel directed to me, and then the chat in the bottom.
Things I'm not thrilled about - the way it's set up, by default it loads new chat windows over the top of my hilight buffer. I couldn't find a way to isolate that window, and have it create down the bottom.
> when I'm AFK and someone privatemessages
Ah not quite. I'm not talking about that kind of directed messages. Rather - when someone says "cturner:" in channel (a public directed message). In that case I'd like to know that I'll get their message.
Also, I fiddled quite a bit trying to get autologin to freenode and channel join to work without luck.
Irssi is the best I've found, and I try to stick to console apps so that's a plus and it mostly works for me. But I thought my needs were quite simple and hence thought it wouldn't be too much to think that there'd be something that worked my way out of the box.
You might be interested to set up an IRC bouncer, like ZNC, instead of running Irssi on your server. ZNC will maintain a constant connection and presence to the IRC server, and then you can use any IRC client to connect to your ZNC server. When you connect to ZNC, you'll get a playback of recent conversation, any PM's you may have missed, etc. You can even connect multiple IRC clients to your ZNC server; eg, I run Irssi on my server, XChat on my home machine, and can also connect from my phone using Andchat.
I've actually written a module for ZNC [1] that will send push notifications to your computer or mobile phone, using a variety of services, whenever you get mentioned or private messaged. The conditions for sending a push notification can be customized to your heart's content, and you don't have to worry about missing replies to your questions.
If you want more details about the setup, I wrote an article [2] describing my entire IRC stack; you can get as simple or as complicated as you want.
Re:Survival Guide:IRC
by lamnk on Wednesday January 11, 2012 @05:25PM
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Actually what kind of benefits an IRC bouncer provides over running irssi on my server? Aren't those advantages that you listed (except the push notification function) can have in irssi as well?
Re:Survival Guide:IRC
by pferde on Tuesday January 10, 2012 @07:16PM
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> Ah not quite. I'm not talking about that kind of directed messages. Rather - when someone says "cturner:" in channel (a public directed message). In that case I'd like to know that I'll get their message.
That's what irssi's awaylog is for. Learn it, use it, love it.
> Also, I fiddled quite a bit trying to get autologin to freenode and channel join to work without luck.
...every day, quite a few people coming with this problem to freenode's #irssi manage to do that, after some pointers from the channel's regulars. It's quite easy, really. http://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c3 might help you.
Re:Survival Guide:IRC
by baby on Tuesday January 10, 2012 @03:12PM
(#3448777)
wow a survival guide about something that's been around here for ages. Also a cheap survival guide, I've seen better resources about IRC... This is the kind of blog post that lands on the frontpage of HN thanks to I don't know what miracle.
Also for developers, tendency is to leave IRC. See the new chat system of metastack.
As for the video of numb3rs. Who haven't seen that also...
Re:Survival Guide:IRC
by baby on Wednesday January 11, 2012 @01:39AM
(#3450713)
Oh yeah I'm a troll now. I've been using IRC since 2001... Feels also like HN shouldn't be a place to post videos like the numb3rs' one, also I enjoy it on reddit.
1. Find a large number of technical IRC channels. 2. Idle in all of them.
E.g. Want to know what Netiquette is? Read this RFC. Curious about HTTP? Here's the RFC and some other good materials.
I think there are many "perma threads" that all beginners eventually end up asking, it would cool if they were all easily accessible from one place.
So many bot wars.. could have been avoided.
It's nice to see it though in IRC terms, though. The point about being able to post, and then wait for an answer is important. Sometimes we want a quick answer and can't get it on IRC. Each channel has it's own activity level and culture and it's important to know how different channels work.
This is admittedly anecdotal, but I often see people refer questioners to SO entries as the answer to something and I've had more success getting answers to things by posting a SO question and then throwing the URL for that into an IRC channel than trying to establish everything in the channel itself.
Maybe SO is just acting like a pastie.org that you can also get answers to.
Your post came in as I deleted. Thanks for response, I'll pick it up.
I use linux console via putty. The way I have it configured I have a window at the top that traps comments from any channel directed to me, and then the chat in the bottom.Things I'm not thrilled about - the way it's set up, by default it loads new chat windows over the top of my hilight buffer. I couldn't find a way to isolate that window, and have it create down the bottom.
Ah not quite. I'm not talking about that kind of directed messages. Rather - when someone says "cturner:" in channel (a public directed message). In that case I'd like to know that I'll get their message.Also, I fiddled quite a bit trying to get autologin to freenode and channel join to work without luck.
Irssi is the best I've found, and I try to stick to console apps so that's a plus and it mostly works for me. But I thought my needs were quite simple and hence thought it wouldn't be too much to think that there'd be something that worked my way out of the box.
I've actually written a module for ZNC [1] that will send push notifications to your computer or mobile phone, using a variety of services, whenever you get mentioned or private messaged. The conditions for sending a push notification can be customized to your heart's content, and you don't have to worry about missing replies to your questions.
If you want more details about the setup, I wrote an article [2] describing my entire IRC stack; you can get as simple or as complicated as you want.
[1] http://noswap.com/projects/znc-push/
[2] http://noswap.com/articles/irc/
That's what irssi's awaylog is for. Learn it, use it, love it.
> Also, I fiddled quite a bit trying to get autologin to freenode and channel join to work without luck.
...every day, quite a few people coming with this problem to freenode's #irssi manage to do that, after some pointers from the channel's regulars. It's quite easy, really. http://irssi.org/documentation/startup#c3 might help you.
http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml
to sum up: be nice
Also for developers, tendency is to leave IRC. See the new chat system of metastack.
As for the video of numb3rs. Who haven't seen that also...