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Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by pronlover723 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @09:48PM (#34473689)
No one can touch you but they can hurt you in the same way people hurt others online all the time. Verbal abuse, name calling, derogatory remarks, unwanted solicitation, etc...
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by generalizations on Saturday January 21, 2023 @09:52PM (#34473708)
> and you can leave at any time
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by l33t233372 on Saturday January 21, 2023 @10:15PM (#34473870)
You can do that online as well, no?

I suppose if you elect to not remain anonymous there could be an issue, but generally speaking I don’t know that this is a problem.

Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by dougmwne on Saturday January 21, 2023 @11:00PM (#34474111)
Yes, VR is online, but it’s a weird embodied immersive presence version of online that can feel a bit like hanging out in meatspace. And it has a off button.
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by TulliusCicero on Sunday January 22, 2023 @02:44AM (#34475276)
Yes, but VR has the advantage of feeling closer to IRL meetups in some ways. Head and hand movement does a lot.
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by Mikeb85 on Sunday January 22, 2023 @03:41AM (#34475524)
Everyone's pushing IRL meetings though. Apart from tech, most industries are back at the office...
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by TulliusCicero on Sunday January 22, 2023 @03:43AM (#34475532)
Were we talking specifically about corporate work? There's more to meetings or meetups than just your job.

That said, I think VR/AR may eventually be a way to enhance online work meetings. It doesn't seem like it's there yet overall, but eventually I could definitely see it working.

Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by techwizard81 on Sunday January 22, 2023 @06:47AM (#34476462)
Can you elaborate on how VR would enhance meetings? I really don’t see the point myself. I don’t want to meet some avatar in a virtual room and I don’t know anybody who would.
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by Firmwarrior on Sunday January 22, 2023 @11:52AM (#34479301)
He elaborated and you didn't understand

There are tons of accounts of how you feel a sense of 'presence' in VR. The head tracking fools your lizard brain into thinking you're actually there in the virtual world.

If you're reading this site I'm guessing you have access to $400. Just go buy a Quest 2 and try it out for 10 minutes, and you'll see what I mean.

Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by TulliusCicero on Monday January 23, 2023 @12:21AM (#34485783)
Compared to standard video calls, there'd be a much greater sense of presence. Head movement, hand movement, and eye contact (once that's standard) would increase how close it feels to IRL meetings.
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by tessierashpool on Saturday January 21, 2023 @10:23PM (#34473913)
"if people are trying to chase you away, you can always leave."

not a solution per se

Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by dougmwne on Saturday January 21, 2023 @11:38PM (#34474344)
Or mute them, which is an excellent solution.
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by gpm on Saturday January 21, 2023 @11:50PM (#34474414)
Which is a solution that scales extremely poorly in a global environment with potentially billions of people you might want to mute. More so in an environment which supports anonymity, so that they can just keep creating new accounts.
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by u801e on Sunday January 22, 2023 @12:37AM (#34474672)
In that case one could rely on an allow list rather than a block list.
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by KyeRussell on Sunday January 22, 2023 @01:54AM (#34475065)
Now you’re so keen on being right that you’ve lost sight of the value that was originally proposed in the first place.
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by michaelmrose on Sunday January 22, 2023 @12:01AM (#34474474)
Kind of like spam you can heuristically figure out who is hurling abuse at people and ban/shadowban/automute their communications to people they are attempting to abuse.

I can imagine that the same way you have a shared list of undesirables. Essentially an assholeblock instead of adblock.

Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by themitigating on Sunday January 22, 2023 @02:08AM (#34475125)
This would be a good idea but people can just make new accounts. It would also be open to abuse so it would need an appeal system and some sort of judiciary.

I don't understand why reputation isn't a solution offered for spam and bad people. Why not make users on the internet build trust.

Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by michaelmrose on Sunday January 22, 2023 @02:28AM (#34475202)
For egregious breaches you don't need to give them an appeal just ban them. For less egregious situations client side filtering like adblock doesn't get one either by virtue of people not owing you their time.
Re:Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed... by themitigating on Sunday January 22, 2023 @02:02AM (#34475098)
You can also avoid talking to people and attending social events as much possible but that's terrible as humans are social.