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Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by AndrewDucker on Thursday January 19, 2023 @04:18AM (#34438303)
Light switches are on when they're in the down position.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by jonwinstanley on Thursday January 19, 2023 @04:38AM (#34438422)
Unless you have two switches for the same light so the on position depends on what position the other switch is in too
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by jonsen on Thursday January 19, 2023 @05:28AM (#34438781)
Both switches should be turned 90 degrees and move horizontally.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by jonwinstanley on Thursday January 19, 2023 @05:57AM (#34438976)
Hahaha yes!
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by TacticalCoder on Thursday January 19, 2023 @06:17AM (#34439105)
Yup I've got some like these in the house here.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by gpderetta on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:51AM (#34440219)
luckily all light switches have a light indicator show the current status.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by jameshart on Thursday January 19, 2023 @12:40PM (#34443112)
Except when the bulb has gone. Which is the one time you really want to be sure the power is off.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by gpderetta on Thursday January 19, 2023 @01:48PM (#34443950)
In that case removing the broken bulb and sticking your fingers on the metal bits also works.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by throwaway019254 on Thursday January 19, 2023 @04:45AM (#34438462)
> Light switches are on when they're in the down position.

This really depends on the part of the world you are living in.

When I was living in Central Europe the light switches were on when they were in the up position.

Edit: Even all my Canadian switches are like this. Up is on.

Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by Akronymus on Thursday January 19, 2023 @05:41AM (#34438864)
Central europe here as well: We have light switches that are press to toggle and spring back in our home.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by vinay427 on Thursday January 19, 2023 @05:26AM (#34438764)
The UK and many ex-colonies that also maintain plug/outlet switches seem to generally use down for on, while the US/Canada/Central Europe often use up for on.

Especially annoying are the posh toggles, unnecessarily popular in some European countries (e.g. CH) that don’t have any physical indicator of on-off status.

Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by michaelscott on Thursday January 19, 2023 @07:12AM (#34439490)
The lack of any affordance whatsoever on buttons, switches and appliances in Switzerland drives me absolutely insane
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by Digit-Al on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:28AM (#34440016)
This becomes confounded if you have multiple switches for the same light though.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by scotty79 on Thursday January 19, 2023 @10:05AM (#34441045)
Maybe they should be installed sideways.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by kortex on Thursday January 19, 2023 @11:26AM (#34442062)
Here in USA, single-gang switches have "on" and "off" embossed on the switch, so the state is shown based on the position (oriented up is on). Multi-gang switches have no embossing.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by vinay427 on Friday January 20, 2023 @03:53AM (#34450548)
It’s fine for multi-way switches, and probably even better than confounded switches, but as I mentioned they’re unnecessarily common which in this case means that they’re often used (at least in some settings in CH) for single-switch setups as well. For instance, my apartment had around 8-10 push switches of this type, with only 1 that was a three-way switch.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by glandium on Thursday January 19, 2023 @05:28AM (#34438777)
And in other places (e.g. Japan), the switches are left/right. I think right is On.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by lifthrasiir on Thursday January 19, 2023 @06:55AM (#34439372)
Sometimes it can even be either way, because there are two switches and toggling one of them toggles the light in any case; they essentially act as a XOR circuit and are most commonly seen in corridors.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by glandium on Thursday January 19, 2023 @04:13PM (#34445690)
More like a not xor, since you typically need to have both in the same position, not in opposite positions.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by hutattedonmyarm on Thursday January 19, 2023 @06:01AM (#34439005)
The apartment I live in has switches that turn the light on in its down position in some rooms and switches that turn the light of in its up position in other rooms. Fun!
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by Kubuxu on Thursday January 19, 2023 @06:25AM (#34439166)
You can fix it quite easily by pulling out the whole switch and setting it in the box the other way.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by hutattedonmyarm on Thursday January 19, 2023 @06:42AM (#34439271)
But by now I've gotten so used to it that I don't want to :)
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by ilyt on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:37AM (#34440082)
Or when you cheaped out on workforce you could get some of them up, some of them down :D
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by throwaway019254 on Friday January 20, 2023 @01:40AM (#34449903)
And some not working at all.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by Terretta on Thursday January 19, 2023 @06:23AM (#34439149)
(A) What? Not.

Off: https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/light-switch-in-off-pos...

Also off: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Ro...

Unless you mean this kind that offer either way: https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71BTb1oUUYS.jpg

(B) The standard three way* switch would like a word.

* Which actually means two switches (or more).

Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by Izkata on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:44AM (#34440155)
Yeah, I've lived with dual switches my whole life. Hallway in my childhood home, the two entrances to my kitchen now. Also my bathroom switch is left/right. I had no idea "up is on/off" was even a thing until someone referenced it a few years ago (in my 30s).
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by kube-system on Thursday January 19, 2023 @01:39PM (#34443837)
Y'all live on different continents. Their switches don't look like that. They look like this: https://youtu.be/uJeBKUVIRYo?t=371
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by latexr on Thursday January 19, 2023 @06:30AM (#34439198)
It depends entirely on how they were mounted/wired and if the person doing it cared. Where I live the inconsistency is real, even inside a single home, though most people seem to not care. In my own home I fixed everything which was in the subjectively wrong position, it was trivial to do.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by KineticLensman on Thursday January 19, 2023 @09:36AM (#34440699)
Yes. An electrician re-wiring my kitchen had three adjacent switches differently up / down when all off. He happily redid them when asked, but clearly himself didn't care about the consistency.
Re:Ask HN: Why are toggle switches replacing checkboxes? Isn... by l- on Thursday January 19, 2023 @08:57AM (#34440292)
The analogous case being a horizontal circuit laying on a table with the crossbar switch up in the air causing an open circuit & being down closing it.