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Re:DragonFlyBSD's HAMMER2 File-System Being Ported to NetBSD by wejick on Saturday January 14, 2023 @08:29PM (#34385868)
Anyone can enlighten where do usually netBSD and dragonflyBSD get deployed? What kind of usecase or who's high profile user?
Re:DragonFlyBSD's HAMMER2 File-System Being Ported to NetBSD by j16sdiz on Saturday January 14, 2023 @09:53PM (#34386333)
NetBSD are mostly embeded systems.

and dragonfly don’t get deployed =)

edit: dragonflybsd is mostly a playground for those innovative ideas and features

Re:DragonFlyBSD's HAMMER2 File-System Being Ported to NetBSD by ksec on Saturday January 14, 2023 @11:51PM (#34386815)
The good old AirPort Extreme runs on NetBSD.
Re:DragonFlyBSD's HAMMER2 File-System Being Ported to NetBSD by nortonham on Sunday January 15, 2023 @12:13AM (#34386915)
I believe Japanese ISP's used netBSD in their hardware. I think it's used in many embedded systems as another user pointed out. NASA has used NetBSD in the past as well.

https://netbsd.org/gallery/research.html#sams-ii

https://www.netbsd.org/gallery/products.html

Re:DragonFlyBSD's HAMMER2 File-System Being Ported to NetBSD by nazgulsenpai on Sunday January 15, 2023 @12:39AM (#34387015)
Re:DragonFlyBSD's HAMMER2 File-System Being Ported to NetBSD by the_only_law on Sunday January 15, 2023 @12:39AM (#34387019)
I have a DEC Alpha sitting around I want to get NetBSD on along with a few others that could run it.
Re:DragonFlyBSD's HAMMER2 File-System Being Ported to NetBSD by johnklos on Sunday January 15, 2023 @03:22AM (#34387771)
Try it! We have Alpha binary packages :)

https://zia.io/notice/ARclSIZzZKNlAfXoFE

Re:DragonFlyBSD's HAMMER2 File-System Being Ported to NetBSD by weitzj on Sunday January 15, 2023 @05:48AM (#34388464)
At University
Re:DragonFlyBSD's HAMMER2 File-System Being Ported to NetBSD by fs111 on Sunday January 15, 2023 @06:28AM (#34388630)
Re:DragonFlyBSD's HAMMER2 File-System Being Ported to NetBSD by LargoLasskhyfv on Sunday January 15, 2023 @10:41AM (#34390167)
I used it. As Desktop, daily driver, and on servers. The same way I used Gentoo. The thing is, if you compile from source, and don't need proprietary apps which assume linuxisms, anything which compiles from source runs just the same way, as it would under Linux, or even(slightly) better. But that seems to be an almost lost art, nowadays? (Assuming you have fully supported hardware, drivers, and such, which was the case for a while with some systems)

However, I've got lazy, too, and now use some ready made distro booted from USB-keychain, running from RAM.

Besides that, what would be the usecase? The base system is small, lean & mean, and in my experience rock solid, as in UNKAPUTTBAR. The organization and style of source was more understandable to me, as was the framework to recompile the base(make world in FreeBSD terminology), and applications from their 'Ports/Portage' which is called PKGSRC there.

The same goes for the filesystem layout, /etc, init, and so on. It's just really nice, all in all.

Thinking about it, the question is like what would be the usecase for Alpine-Linux? Some people are using that as desktop, too, for probably similar reasons.

I think the highest hurdle for people has been the 'strange concept' of using 'slices' and BSD-Disklabels to further split apart MBR-style partitions.

Like explained here: http://netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-inst.html#chap-inst-ins...

I don't know how that applies to UEFI/GPT-partitioning and secure-boot actually. Haven't tried that, so far. Seems to be another hurdle, though I know from others that it runs, at least without secure-boot. Seems to be that 'The Guide' and FAQs are lagging behind reality. As often is the case, need to read mailing lists then, sigh...

Or simply searching for UEFI and GPT on their wiki, which leads to:

https://wiki.netbsd.org/Installation_on_UEFI_systems/ & https://wiki.netbsd.org/users/spz/moderndisk/

Furthermore: different device names. And an INIT which is neither SysV, nor systemd.

http://www.mewburn.net/luke/talks/auug-2003/ & https://www.netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-rc.html

Which wasn't even mentioned in all the discussions of SysV vs. systemd because NIH?

I don't know exactly how to say that, but IMO you've missed out on an experience, if you don't know it. No matter how inconvenient installation or hardware support is.

This belongs under your belt.