Eventually they’ll just route around this by connecting to your neighbor’s Ring doorbell or your Nest thermostat or whatever random internet connected thing that it can reach out and pass packets through.

Amazon Sidewalk

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27182822

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27115809

Apple FindMy Network

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27130355

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26877484

...or just put a cellular modem on the BOM, and have the advertisers pay for it.

Bingo. Don’t many new cars do this?

This is what scared me most when Volvo switched their infotainment over to Google products (and a contributing reason why I chose not to purchase a new XC60 Recharge).

Most likely they will start coming with their own cellular network capabilities built in, bypassing any need for a network connection. They would also be able to screen capture and analyze whatever you watch, even on external devices like apple tv and inject ads directly as an overlay. The thought just sickens me.

It's seriously time to start thinking about building houses with a built-in Faraday cage.

Or just don't buy an idiot box.

I'd argue the TV is one of the most harmful inventions of the modern age.

Sitting for hours a day is the new smoking. And the ever more hyper-partisan news rots the mind. All so you can watch the latest trite bollocks Disney et al. has just put out.

Lets not even get started on how they're all streaming services now. So much content yet a fraction of the quality.

I got rid of my TV when I saw a man being gruesomely killed on BBC news ~2014. It was without a doubt the smartest decision I ever made.

Yeah, but it's not just about TVs. If cellular devices become small, cheap and ubiquitous enough, I'm fully expecting these vile corporations to start inserting them in all electronics. If there's not a large enough outrage, we can expect all devices to eventually be phoning home.

A Faraday cage home seems like it would be simple enough to build and fully proof you from such idiocy forever.

That's when people like us make a killing offering anti-spyware (desoldering) solutions to consumers!

I imagine we'll eventually just have to start removing antennas.

Not if the TV is plugged in via ethernet to an old linksys router that just happens to be disconnected from the internet.

that's worked for me... so far..