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Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by PragmaticPulp on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:34PM (#34373520)
> For some people, prices will double overnight. For others, it’ll be nothing. Others still yet will split the difference on a wide-ranging scale in between those points. The determining factor? Theoretically a combination of which country you’re in, when exactly you signed up, whether you’re on annual or monthly plans, and finally, exactly what today’s date is, relative to the date of your subscription renewal. I’m not kidding, you can’t make this up.

This sounds like the over-complicated scheme you get after too many product managers spend 6 months holding meetings where nobody wants to back down, so instead they continue to add complexity until every last piece of the decision is a compromise.

Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by walrus01 on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:37PM (#34373547)
Eventually taken to its logical conclusion, you end up with something that looks like the terms and conditions and contract clauses seen when signing up for a "promotional" offer price on a 24 or 36-month service term with a famously consumer abusive Canadian cellular carrier like Bell, Telus or Rogers or one of their sub-brands wholly owned MVNOs.

Or for "landline" Telus fiber based last mile ISP service bundled with TV.

Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by seneca on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:37PM (#34373542)
I think you hit it dead on. This is design by committee and organizational dysfunction.

Strava has been flailing for years now, dropping much used features and just generally antagonizing its customer base. It's a wonder they're still around and as widely used as they are. Just goes to show how many bad decisions you can absorb as a market leader, I suppose.

Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by chairmanwow1 on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:38PM (#34373555)
What is a good alternative? I want some analytics / tools for training specific distances.
Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by camel_gopher on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:38PM (#34373562)
TrainerRoad is outstanding for structured training. Doesn't have the social aspect.
Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by oezi on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:40PM (#34373582)
Intervals.icu
Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by mbesto on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:45PM (#34373654)
https://intervals.icu/ - for the lazy

The app is incredible if you're a data junky and very serious about performance. Strava is more sexy about maps and sharing though.

Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by InCityDreams on Friday January 13, 2023 @04:04PM (#34373858)
Intervals has maps and can be shared. I'm already in a couple of groups. Getting more people to jump across may be easier, now. Thanks strava.
Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by amateurdev on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:42PM (#34373617)
If you're a Garmin device user, the app is pretty good! I only recently started using their app more often and barring the social aspects, I dont think Strava offers me anything more. HR zones, recovery etc are all already in the Garmin app whereas its paid on Strava.

I guess for those who want routes/segments might gravitate towards Strava but I use a fairly standard set of routes so I dont value in that either.

Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by ohyoutravel on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:45PM (#34373648)
SmashRun https://smashrun.com/ if you do only running activities. It’s great. Though while I pay for that, I also pay for strava since 2012 and will continue to do so. Disagree with grandparent post, I think strava has become better and better over time and I find it more engaging and useful than before.
Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by stephencoyner on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:50PM (#34373704)
Agreed it would seem there is a lack of product vision at this point
Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by adrr on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:44PM (#34373638)
When you get too many MBAs into a room. Pricing and features are based on an excel model optimizing for revenue with some magic numbers someone picked out of a hat that determines price sensitivity by region. Don’t let your CFO drive. They are a support role only.
Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by bunsenhoneydew on Friday January 13, 2023 @04:49PM (#34374376)
I couldn’t agree more with “Don’t let your CFO drive”. I’ve worked at several companies that turned to absolute shit as a result of exactly this.
Re:Strava Raises Prices but Can’t Tell You How Much It Costs... by yieldcrv on Friday January 13, 2023 @03:46PM (#34373665)
To me it sounds more like they have key clients already paying wildly different arrangements, who are going to want to get out of the contract if they learn the new pricing

Its going to burn alot of bridges and there’s no way out of the quagmire

Its just a case study of when the means (always be closing) stop justifying the end