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Re:How Microsoft attempted to make the Xbox 360 dashboard lo... by doublepg23 on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @08:55PM (#34334116)
With game consoles being more “media centers” than just game consoles in 2023 I’m not sure I agree.

At the same time I don’t think there’s anything preventing you from ignoring 90% of a console and just launching disc-based games. You’ll need an internet connection for patches but beyond that it’s pretty easy past initial setup.

Re:How Microsoft attempted to make the Xbox 360 dashboard lo... by KerrAvon on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @11:50PM (#34335126)
Do you actually use the media center pieces?

I only use PlayStation for gaming and occasionally to play a BluRay. It’s really not a great general media box; it would need a better remote control, for starters.

And yet Sony insists on wasting screen space with a a pointless media library icon that can’t be removed.

Re:How Microsoft attempted to make the Xbox 360 dashboard lo... by pandaman on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:24AM (#34335290)
All HDMI PlayStations can read control signals from the HDMI receiver i.e. can be controlled by the TV remote, though running third party apps (such as Netflix) would be problematic with a TV remote because for some stupid reason Sony does not allow apps to exit(3) so you can start anything with a TV remote but if it's a non-builtin player you need a PS remote or a controller to bring up the system menu and kill the app.
Re:How Microsoft attempted to make the Xbox 360 dashboard lo... by Lammy on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:35AM (#34335368)
> All HDMI PlayStations

Forgive my pedantry, but the "Fat" (CECHA~Q) PS3s do not support this, only the "Slim" and "Super-Slim" models: http://www.edepot.com/playstation3.html#PS3_Model_Difference...

Re:How Microsoft attempted to make the Xbox 360 dashboard lo... by amatecha on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @12:05AM (#34335204)
I use an Xbox One X solely as a "YouTube/Kodi home theatre"... (I also have a lot of game systems and computers). Indeed I have the trusty infrared remote! It's a pretty nice setup! Especially as I can play some games on it from time to time. :)
Re:How Microsoft attempted to make the Xbox 360 dashboard lo... by doublepg23 on Thursday January 12, 2023 @10:40AM (#34355128)
Do you mean the media remote is poor or do you mean the controller? https://www.playstation.com/en-us/accessories/media-remote/
Re:How Microsoft attempted to make the Xbox 360 dashboard lo... by hot_gril on Wednesday January 11, 2023 @02:14AM (#34335940)
> At the same time I don’t think there’s anything preventing you from ignoring 90% of a console and just launching disc-based games.

It takes longer to run the game ever since the 360/PS3/Wii gen, and the 360 is notoriously annoying about user sign-in, and there's that center button you accidentally press mid-game to bring up the hub. Wii has probably the worst dashboard cause you need to set up the IR transmitter and Wiimote to get past it even for games that only use GC controllers.

I get the media center thing as a selling point for other people. I just have never used a game console for things besides games.

Re:How Microsoft attempted to make the Xbox 360 dashboard lo... by doublepg23 on Thursday January 12, 2023 @10:45AM (#34355209)
It’s certainly slower but in absolute terms it still only take tens of seconds on a cold boot.

When sleeping (how most people use the console) it’s practically as fast, especially with Instant Resume on the Series X/S.