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Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by boredumb on Monday January 09, 2023 @03:48PM (#34315816)
Trevor Noah squandered the opportunity that was "The Daily Show"
Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by throwayyy479087 on Monday January 09, 2023 @03:54PM (#34315886)
I commented above, but agreed. I never got the schtick of “you guys suck and I dislike this country I moved to” as a talk show.

Ok? You chose to come here, no one says we’re perfect. It’s bizarre to me to move and stay somewhere you so clearly dislike.

Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by mc32 on Monday January 09, 2023 @04:01PM (#34316001)
People will do lots of things for money --things they hate to do. Thing is people watched his show, so it was a profitable enterprise, even if the premise itself was controversial.

Let's say once the war is over and in the Ukraine people find a fondness for Soviet nostalgia and hire a Russian to make fun of them. It's plausible. Many people would hate it despite being edgy, but some would enjoy it too. As they say in Wales, 'queer as folk'.

Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by throwayyy479087 on Monday January 09, 2023 @03:51PM (#34315848)
Is there any other country that loves commentators that come and shit on it’s citizens? I can’t imagine India paying Brits big money to crap all over them, but in America we have Trevor, Piers Morgan, John Oliver.

I never got the appeal frankly. Maybe we can listen to Noah and become more like the paradise that is South Africa.

Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by mindover on Monday January 09, 2023 @03:59PM (#34315968)
If you take legitimate criticism of your country so personally then maybe watching late night comedy shows is not for you.

This shouldn’t have much to do with the presenter’s country of birth unless this somehow clouds your own judgment.

Oliver has excellent writers and the topics he highlights are almost always worthy. Trevor had his own thing which I personally didn’t find funny or interesting, but not because he was born in SA.

Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by kazmerb on Monday January 09, 2023 @03:58PM (#34315946)
lol you're probably a republican, if you feel like Noah's "schtick" was to sit on TV and shit on it's "citizens", you're right, but he was shitting on republicans which is allowed since republicans are shit people to begin with. Cope and seethe.

Noah will be missed. His take on American politics from the angle of someone growing up in SA was funny and unique.

Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by sn0w_crash on Monday January 09, 2023 @05:54PM (#34317678)
“Republicans are shit people.”

Waiting for Dang or the mods to swoop in on this one.

Not gonna hold my breath.

Also, imagine thinking 80 million people (and many billion more in the world) are literal human shit. And simultaneously thinking you’re the smart good person in the room. Imagine that.

Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by mc32 on Monday January 09, 2023 @03:56PM (#34315912)
No one owes anyone anything in terms of expectations. As long as he's happy and isn't harming any other people, it's for him to decide to quit and go do something irrelevant, if he wants to.
Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by s1artibartfast on Monday January 09, 2023 @03:57PM (#34315934)
>Only occasionally did the series fully deliver on its initial promise of using Noah’s outsider’s gaze to satirize America.

The whole change with Noah on the daily show was that criticism and satire from an outside comes across completely different than from an insider.

Stewart and Colbert were insiders, so when they satirized the US, there was a level of self-deprecation, and the idea that we are going through through this absurd madness together.

Because Noah didn't have this shared identity with the viewer, the satire generally fell flat and came across as mere ridicule,

Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by legitster on Monday January 09, 2023 @04:09PM (#34316100)
If you wanted an outsider who could effectively satirize America, you are looking for Craig Ferguson.

I think the difference is that Craig Ferguson freaking loved America, showed his enthusiasm for it all of the time, and was enthusiastic about making it better.

Listing to Trevor Noah (or more probably, his writers) was like talking to someone who could live anywhere they want but they chose to live in the place they hated the most.

Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by nickthegreek on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @09:37AM (#34325453)
John Oliver does a decent job at this while also embracing the US/UK shared history of messing up.
Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by legitster on Tuesday January 10, 2023 @10:37AM (#34326392)
I dunno. I've really not enjoyed John Oliver. And to cover up the fact that I do not have sufficient evidence to make my point, here are some pictures of teacup pigs.
Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by mc32 on Monday January 09, 2023 @04:02PM (#34316022)
I dunno. I could take Stewart --I understood him. I could not find appreciation in Colbert --not least of which is the weird way he says his last name (despite how his own family says it). John Oliver comes across as a prigish prick. At least Noah didn't bring that abrasiveness.
Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by s1artibartfast on Monday January 09, 2023 @04:39PM (#34316517)
With Colbert, I at least got the impression that he liked the US and Americans. Did you feel otherwise?

Another impression I got from Stewart and Colbert was that they genuinely enjoyed their work.

Noah seemed disdainful of the US, and like he didn't want to be there.

It like that feeling when someone tells a joke that they don't think is funny, but expect you to laugh.

Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by kazmerb on Monday January 09, 2023 @04:03PM (#34316031)
I loved Noah's run on TDS. I would've preferred Stewbeef of course, because I love me some J-Stew, but Noah was alright and grew into his role in one of the most tumultuous times of our nation's history and the world around us.

Anyone who criticizes him for "shitting" on America, it's institutions, and it's people, are just mad that they belong to the groups he was shitting on. It's ok! Be mad. It's funnier that way.

Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by sn0w_crash on Monday January 09, 2023 @05:51PM (#34317638)
I’m not part of any of those institutions he was “shitting on” and I don’t think he did a good job. Jon Stewart was funny, and when he made fun of republicans it was genuinely funny.

Trevor Noah’s shtick is “conservatards are dumb hurr durr America sucks” and I’m supposed to clap like a sea lion?

Ok lol

Re:“The Daily Show” Squandered the Opportunity That Was Trev... by legitster on Monday January 09, 2023 @04:23PM (#34316285)
I enjoyed Jon Stewart's the Daily Show as much as the next person, but this article makes me really appreciate how much I dislike all of its successors. The whole "Progressives Yell At the Camera About Things They Read on Twitter" genre is thoroughly saturated at this point. And criminally unfun. Even Jon Stewart's new show I have found to be unnecessarily doomful - not only does it host it's own fair share of misleading stories, crackpots, and pitchfork sharpening - it's just not fun.

I think the thing all of these shows are forgetting is the Daily Show was FUN. In spite of "Stewart taking things personally."

The Daily Show was literally a parody of the pearl-clutching, panic-driven serious news shows on cable at the time. They brought levity and lowered the stakes.

Instead these shows have become the "serious" shows.