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Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by somethingreen on Sunday January 01, 2023 @02:04PM (#34209540)
> I think a lot of people go hard on it and overdo it and then get injured or stop it for other reasons.

Yes, I think C25K and the "just run" sentiment in general is missing half a dozen asterisks about this aspect. Like "except don't run on concrete for the first year", or "except do this progression of exercises for feet and tendons for 3 months before you start doing continuous 2-3k", or just "hire a trainer to get you started".

I've never been overweight, been active as a kid, was in increasingly good physical shape throughout my 3 attempts to start running over the years and got injured for months every time. By the last attempt I was taking multi-hour walks as a habit, lifting weights 5 days a week, watching my sleep and diet. And heart rate monitor has shown that I straight up didn't have this magical "easy run" heart rate zone available - brisk walk was well below 120 bpm and even jogging in place got me over 130.

C25K is great for what it is, but I feel what it is is not enough to start running safely.

Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by igouy on Wednesday January 04, 2023 @01:25PM (#34249393)
> got injured for months every time

What did you injure? What did you do after thinking you were injured?

Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by somethingreen on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @12:02PM (#34415061)
Plantar fasciitis, shin splints and some minor, I assume, tendon inflammation above ankle joint. PF was the worst - icing, stretching, rolling, exercises - nothing helped, only went away after switching from casual/dress shoes to sneakers for daily. Shin splints seemed to have went away in couple weeks with some massage and exercises, but came back after 1-2 runs on multiple attempts. Last injury coincided with me receiving an old elliptical from parents as a gift, so I didn't need to run for cardio anymore.

And now I'm a refugee and my running trails back home were in the zone russians dropped cluster munitions on. So it's not looking good for running going forward, lol.

Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by igouy on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @06:07PM (#34434413)
Yeah the shoes we wear most of the day do matter a lot.

Don't recall having plantar fasciitis or shin splints; but spent a lot of time on steps doing many many single leg heel raises, to work around achilles tendon and calf muscle pain.

Exercise finds our weaknesses.

Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by igouy on Thursday January 05, 2023 @01:48PM (#34264531)
> even jogging in place got me over 130

The cardiac exercise research group in Norway have developed and tested an online maximum heart rate calculator.

https://www.ntnu.edu/cerg/hrmax

Check what that number is for you.

The interval training they recommend would be about 90% of maximum heart rate.

(For example, I'm in my early 60s and I'm supposed to push my heart rate into the range 150—165 bpm.)

Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by somethingreen on Tuesday January 17, 2023 @12:23PM (#34415425)
Interval training is different, it's supposed to spike your heart rate for short(er) periods, so that makes sense. When people are talking about running easy or being able to have a conversation, they usually are talking about low to moderate intensity aerobic zone or "zone 2", which goes to 75-80% HRmax depending on who you're asking. Some would even explicitly recommend 120-130 bpm range.
Re:Get Running with Couch to 5K by igouy on Wednesday January 18, 2023 @05:55PM (#34434307)
Depends on our age and size and conditioning.

So "jogging in place got me over 130" may be just fine, or may not be.