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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by philippejara on Thursday December 29, 2022 @05:38PM (#34179061)
As a brazillian, as I assume you also are, can't help but disagree. The ratio of good to bad is at most 9-1 in my experience, and I say this with no exaggeration. The only time I can remember people really talking shit about his personal was in the ~2013 protests when he called for protesters to watch the cup(?) or something instead of protest, his illegitimate daughter is mostly a footnote when talking about his personal life for better or for worse, the man's affair with xuxa is far more of a topic of discussion.
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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by baby on Thursday December 29, 2022 @10:56PM (#34181609)
If he was Brazilian he would have said football not soccer
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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by CyanBird on Thursday December 29, 2022 @11:47PM (#34181903)
Pleas don't pollute hackernews with useless comments

Thank you

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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by grardb on Friday December 30, 2022 @01:55AM (#34182604)
This isn't necessarily true. I recently met someone from Brazil who used the word "soccer" when speaking English. As an American living in Europe who's met people from all over the world, I've noticed that it's actually quite common for people to do that if the English they've been exposed to most is American English, especially if that was the dialect they were formally taught. In the case of Brazil, I'm pretty sure that American English is what would be taught in most schools.
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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by irrational on Friday December 30, 2022 @02:03AM (#34182638)
I’m American and I say football instead of soccer (I use American Football for the other sport).
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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by zxexz on Friday December 30, 2022 @06:05AM (#34183949)
Don’t you find that leads to unnecessary confusion? I use football if I’m out of the US, but in the US I’ve only heard people say soccer unless they’re being pretentious or recently moved here/on holiday.
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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by wirrbel on Friday December 30, 2022 @03:55AM (#34183267)
As a German the game is Fußball (literally: football), but I just regularly say soccer in english because I cannot be bothered into finding out what the people I converse with think that football is and soccer is understood by everyone to be association football, i.e. the sport where the only hand that can be used is t̶h̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶m̶a̶r̶a̶d̶o̶n̶a̶ the hand of god.
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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by philippejara on Friday December 30, 2022 @06:25AM (#34184063)
I myself end up using soccer at times due to reflex, a mixture of learning american english and never reading/talking about american football hence barely seeing the word football being used, given the vast majority of english speaking media is US-based. It's not as uncommon as it may initially seem.
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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by wyclif on Friday December 30, 2022 @12:21AM (#34182098)
Pelé certainly has a much better reputation than, say, Maradona.
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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by emondi on Friday December 30, 2022 @04:38AM (#34183498)
Maradona was anti-establishment. Compare Pelé with Sócrates for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B3crates
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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by chucke on Friday December 30, 2022 @08:50AM (#34184967)
Maradona was left-wing friendly, same as Sócrates, which is somehow seen more positively by the crowds. And while Sócrates gets credit for participating at rallies and protests and actually walking the walk, I've never seen Maradona rallying with the people, just benefitting from Cuban public health service.

Despite having been a politician, Pelé rarely discussed preferences, as he was aware of repercussions to his image. In that regard, he can be compared with Michael "republicans also buy sneakers too" Jordan.

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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by thanatropism on Friday December 30, 2022 @10:33AM (#34185911)
s/the crowds/sports journos/
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Re:Pelé, the Global Face of Soccer, Dies at 82 by EL_Loco on Friday December 30, 2022 @08:56PM (#34192611)
As a brazilian, I agree with you. Pretty much everybody I know likes Pelé.
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