Some of us prefer to care about our work. 40 hours per week is a lot of time to spend on something you don’t care about. Caring about your work isn’t the same as it being your “entire life or cause for existence”. Our lives can consist of many different interests.
But shouldn't mean I have to be in an office all the time for me to care about it
Nor is all work "things you care about" even if you love your job, unless you own the entity. Even if you had a passion for picking up garbage, you'd rather be doing it your way than the way your boss is doing it.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to spend non-working hours on something that isn't exploiting you...
An Exchange of someone’s time and focus for predictability, direction, and money.
Most people who do janitorial work would hate having to run a janitorial business. It’s a lot of work organizing everything, doing sales, dealing with legal issues, etc. etc.
If someone wants to do a days work and get a days pay, that’s all stuff that gets in the way.
It’s also a lot of stuff that is waaaay outside the skill set required to do the work they are able and willing to do.
that's objective reality, sport. That's what profit is - the surplus of value from materials and labor...
It's a trade in that if you don't agree to it, you're completely free to starve on the streets.
Are some companies run or managed by exploitive assholes? Sure. Are some folks doing labor exploitive assholes? You bet.
But it’s always more fun to tear down those who have what we don’t and blame them for every problem and isn’t it?
The paychecks came regardless, or they learned that labor has its own power too.
Never felt exploited about it either, and moved somewhere else or just took a break and did what I wanted if I started to feel like it might be. We don’t really need all the trappings we often convince ourselves we need, and it’s a lot lighter without them.
And never once starved for it.
But then, I’ve had to dig trenches before and change diapers and didn’t get paid for that, but then family is pretty communist that way. We all have to make our way, one way or another.
You’re welcome to look at life as harsh and nasty as you want, but you reap what you sow. And that outlook is sowing very bitter seeds indeed.
that society has a mechanism that allows for one to exchange something others have for something they want, without having to do all the things everywhere on their own, means that society is turning them into a slave somehow.
Which hey, maybe? But stepping back and looking at historical context, it’s pretty laughable.
And in the vein of ‘beliefs that help’ vs ‘beliefs that don’t’ - how does that help you or anyone else right now?
Not that it's done by people who aren't proud of the job they do, but most people don't really care about their work just the lifestyle it supports.
You can have "decent professional relationships" with coworkers while remote. Virtual beer (I prefer scotch) drinking sessions work great, for example. And also opens your circle to ppl continents away.
>Work is a significant part of your life and to be socially disconnected and emotionally discordant about what your doing is not good.
Physical proximity is not necessary for social connection. Especially when it seems every app has webconference (slack too).
Also, frequency of needed connection differs if you're an introvert vs extrovert. Larger society typically views the latter as 'normal' & the former as 'ill-adjusted', but I wouldn't expect that tendency on HN(?)
Does it work? Sure, mostly.
But why do that if you can enjoy it? And is it what the SO probably wants? Unlikely.
This is where I realise I’m dealing with a completely different mindset.
Work is something I reluctantly do to fund the things I actually care about. It sure as hell isn’t my entire life or cause for existence.
This probably explains why I love being remote.