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Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by groggo on Thursday December 29, 2022 @01:57AM (#34170244)
It would be interesting to have a "simple english" Scrabble dictionary, without QI and similar words.

One reason Wordle is awesome is because they manually filtered down the possible 5 letter words.

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by hackcasual on Thursday December 29, 2022 @01:59AM (#34170246)
There have been a few that aren't exactly vernacular. I'm still angry about "parer"
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by defrost on Thursday December 29, 2022 @03:07AM (#34170559)
Not venacular in which countries though?

Eg: I'm Australian and instantly thought "that'd be a paring knife ..", and yes, that appears to be what it is.

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by billforsternz on Thursday December 29, 2022 @03:17AM (#34170610)
#metoo, and CONDO the other day, and REBUS for goodness sake.
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by iopq on Thursday December 29, 2022 @05:02AM (#34171131)
That's a very logical word if you know what a paring knife is
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by ghaff on Thursday December 29, 2022 @10:02AM (#34173258)
It's a logical word (and, as I recall, I eventually went with it) in the sense of someone or something that pares. https://www.thefreedictionary.com/parer But it's fair to say that it's not at all common in the US. Someone would normally say they were going to the manicurist or ask you to hand them the paring knife--though, at least in the latter case, they might intuit the meaning from context.
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by jodrellblank on Thursday December 29, 2022 @05:31AM (#34171292)
https://scrabblewordfinder.org/dictionary/parer

Someone who reads is a reader, viewer, writer, dancer, God loves a tryer, and someone who pares should be a parer.

Although I often try that pattern and have it denied, if you can shelve a project it suggests shelver which is in, if you can table a motion it suggests tabler which isn’t.

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by greenbit on Thursday December 29, 2022 @07:56AM (#34172149)
Wouldn't a tabler be a person who makes tables? =P
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by jodrellblank on Thursday December 29, 2022 @09:43AM (#34173054)
As much as a hooker is a person who makes hooks, and a carpenter is one who makes carpents =P
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by lawlorino on Thursday December 29, 2022 @02:56AM (#34170515)
It’s an interesting idea but how would you define simple. Would be pretty sad to lay down your tiles but find out your word wasn’t “simple” enough.
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by charcircuit on Thursday December 29, 2022 @03:37AM (#34170717)
Qi is a common word and being 2 characters definitely makes it simple.
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by quickthrower2 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @04:52AM (#34171090)
Not really. I am yet to hear someone use it in an everyday sentence. It is also a romanisation.
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by iopq on Thursday December 29, 2022 @05:08AM (#34171164)
The word "gi" is also a romanization. So is "tsunami" and "matryoshka". Going further, the word "alphabet" is a romanization of ἀλφάβητος in Latin

so any borrowed word from a non-Latin alphabet is a romanization, that's not a sane criterion (κριτήριον)

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by dagw on Thursday December 29, 2022 @05:08AM (#34171161)
You obviously don't hang out with people into pseudo-eastern 'philosophy'. I know several people who use it regularly.

Of all the 'weird' two letter words mentioned, I'd consider qi probably the most reasonable and common, and certainly one that I actually hear used

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by Tams80 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @05:57AM (#34171438)
Especially with it being the name of the defacto standard of wireless charging.

A brand name, yes, but from an actual word.

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by dagw on Thursday December 29, 2022 @03:08PM (#34177270)
It was also the name of a promising, but ultimately failed, display technology[0].

[0] Anybody else here remember being both very excited about, and then very disappointed by, the Adam?

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by RandExt on Thursday December 29, 2022 @08:35AM (#34172445)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_(standard) I see this usage here more often than the mysticism one.
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by jrumbut on Thursday December 29, 2022 @04:14AM (#34170914)
I wonder about going the other way, adding more short words that make the game flow better (how about VI? Or just allow any two letter combination?).

My experience having briefly gotten into competitive scrabble 15 years ago is that memorizing the short words is the price of admission for a more fun game. Knowing the short words makes it possible to fit the long words on the board.

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by iopq on Thursday December 29, 2022 @05:05AM (#34171143)
If you're going to go that way, the obvious word to add would be ov, a more "cult" spelling of the word "of"

instead of "za" I would suggest "ze" as a pronoun for a non-binary person

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by Tams80 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @05:58AM (#34171448)
I assume 'ye' and an alternative to 'the' would be acceptable under those rules then?
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by iopq on Friday December 30, 2022 @11:16PM (#34193503)
I think it's already accepted as in "Hear ye"
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by mbg721 on Thursday December 29, 2022 @08:25AM (#34172362)
What do you suggest as a substitute insufferable way of referring to pizza?
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by iopq on Friday December 30, 2022 @01:15AM (#34182394)
I already said, no more za, add "ze" as in a non-binary person
Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by njarboe on Thursday December 29, 2022 @09:21AM (#34172810)
Part of what I liked about older scrabble dictionaries (you can use any dictionary you like) was the variance in difficulty in using various letters. Get an 'X'. That is a nice letter to have with high scoring potential with lots of two letter words. A 'J', not so much with only JO as a two letter word. Z, high value with a large word set, but can't go two ways (no ZA). Q, high value but a bit of a pain in the ass and you need a U. Maybe you should turn it in. Now with QI, QAT, etc., the Q is not as cool. But nothing says you have to accept those words. Often we don't play with them.

As suggested elsewhere, we play with a two letter cheat sheet to make the game more fun for those that don't know all those words.

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by ghaff on Thursday December 29, 2022 @09:53AM (#34173167)
One of the clever things about Wordle is a very well-calibrated difficulty level, at least for native English speakers. At least for non-hard mode (i.e. can play a word that you already know can't be the final answer) and using a good start word, it requires some luck to get the answer in less than four but you won't lose (i.e. more than six) very often. And it's usually pretty quick.

Thinking about whether something is a likely answer also introduces some strategy itself.

In spite of being something of a professional writer, I don't usually like word games (including Scrabble) much. But I do like Wordle--although I quickly tired of the multiple word variants.

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by dspillett on Thursday December 29, 2022 @10:50AM (#34173824)
When I was younger (I've not really played since) we played by a word being valid if you could state what it means and use it in a sentence. An Oxford English Dictionary was used to check. For domain specific words other references were permitted (books on computing for instance, or an encyclopedia). Acronyms were permitted only if in common use in that form. Local slang too, I supposed in modern times adding Urban Dictionary to the references would cover that.

But the important thing was to state the meaning before looking up the word, not just using the reference list to pick out combinations that work with your letters. It being a real word did not count if you didn't understand the word.

This wouldn't work as well for online gaming, I expect. And of course you can game it by memorising the meanings of some obscure words, but that (expanded vocab) was part of the point.

Re:The insanity of being a Scrabble enthusiast by yamtaddle on Thursday December 29, 2022 @12:48PM (#34175482)
I'm convinced the purest way to play Scrabble is with siblings or close friends who will kick your ass if you get too cute with the "technically permitted" words. Keeps things in check.