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Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by 0x445442 on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @11:11AM (#34149887)
Yeah the storm angle is a lie.
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by BitwiseFool on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @11:17AM (#34149964)
This is hearsay, but I believe any cancellations due to weather are not subject to fines and fees from the FAA, or being responsible for providing more generous compensation/accommodation for customers. So if there's any reasonable way to blame a failure on inclement weather an airline company will do so without hesitation.
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by 0x445442 on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @11:59AM (#34150582)
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by ipython on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:20PM (#34150939)
How does that post in any way refute the parents point? I agree with the parent that management will try like hell to blame this on the weather- heck they already are. Just check out their press releases.
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by 0x445442 on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:27PM (#34151054)
Yeah I’m a bit confused how the comment even relates to mine. I took it to mean that my assertion that laying blame on the weather for this mess is bogus and a lie. But that assumption may be wrong.
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by ThunderSizzle on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @01:00PM (#34151491)
He's not wrong. Every airline will attempt to blame operational issues on non-finable causes, such as weather.
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by tedunangst on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @01:14PM (#34151701)
So what are the finable causes for flight cancellation?
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by bumby on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:43PM (#34151290)
>cancellations due to weather are not subject to fines and fees from the FAA

I thought this too, but apparently there are no federal regulations other than reimbursement for the direct costs.

"Airlines are not required to provide passengers with money or other compensation for costs that fall outside of the cancelled airline ticket and fees tied directly to the airline ticket (such as baggage fees, seat upgrades, etc.) when flights are cancelled." [1]

"Each airline has its own policies about what it will do for customers on bumped or cancelled flights. There are no federal requirements." [2]

However, there are rules around "bumping" passengers on a flight.

"An airline is required to compensate you after involuntarily bumping you from an oversold flight in certain situations. However, there are many situations where you are not entitled to compensation." [3]

[1] https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer...

[2] https://www.faa.gov/faq/what-are-policies-bumped-or-cancelle...

[3] https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer...

Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by kube-system on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @11:17AM (#34149965)
It is likely both. Scheduling is quite easy when it goes normally. Scheduling becomes a more difficult task when more exceptions happen. That reddit post is by is some boots-on-the-ground employee, not someone who understands the algorithmic details of SWAs somewhat unique routing challenges.
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by phpisthebest on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @11:42AM (#34150295)
It seems they do their scheduling like they do their seating... it is all Free for All
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by bombcar on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @12:16PM (#34150871)
Should just text all pilots to bum-rush any plane they’re equipped to fly. Why not add the two front seats into the free for all?
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by kube-system on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @02:09PM (#34152450)
You joke, but being able to swap any pilot to any plane is part of the reason their fleet is 100% 737s.
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by EFreethought on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @03:24PM (#34153294)
> Scheduling is quite easy when it goes normally. Scheduling becomes a more difficult task when more exceptions happen.

I think some slack/spare capacity or redundancy somewhere would make a LOT of problems less likely to happen. Running lean only works out when nothing goes wrong. I know I should not be shocked by the extent of human stupidity, but why the "business" types do not get this is bizarre to me.

And paying people more would help too.

Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by HDThoreaun on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @03:41PM (#34153508)
The airline business is too competitive for labor slack. People fly spirit because it’s $5 cheaper. Any airline that incorporates slack will immediately find itself without customers. If they make it to a catastrophe it would work out, but it’s extremely unlikely that they will be on business that long.
Re:Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours by tpmoney on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @04:19PM (#34153964)
That memo from the VP someone linked earlier seems to indicate their slack / spare capacity has already been used.