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Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by thevagrant on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:07PM (#34113117)
I don't think that would bother me with my kids. Is TikTok a necessity for school related activity?

When I went to school, I couldn't access the internet. I had to wait until I got home.

Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by ffssffss on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:16PM (#34113175)
I guess what concerns me is that in some schools, students are required to live in dorms. So to me, it feels like an encroachment on what I would consider the students' personal, private home, where I suppose they should be allowed to access whatever content they like (minus, of course, the content I deem objectionable, like child exploitation, but thats much easier for us all to agree on I think).
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by washadjeffmad on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:31PM (#34113253)
Only the apps for TikTok, WeChat, and Telegram are being blocked and removed, not the websites, and only from state property.

There's a privacy and security (read: espionage) concern with the apps right now.

Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by endianswap on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:37PM (#34113290)
According to TFA they're blocked from being accessed from school wi-fi, not only from state property.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by washadjeffmad on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:47PM (#34113341)
Not accurate in Georgia. I can VPN into two institutions and access those domains, and so far one of the Networking teams says they've been given no order to block by DNS or IP. They also have no separate VLAN for student wifi.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by ffssffss on Saturday December 24, 2022 @12:04AM (#34114159)
The two schools are University of Oklahoma and Auburn University.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by washadjeffmad on Saturday December 24, 2022 @07:02AM (#34116075)
The article explicitly mentions the University System of Georgia.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by someNameIG on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:38PM (#34113292)
What security/espionage concerns does Telegram have?
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by washadjeffmad on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:55PM (#34113408)
My assumption is because it was developed by a Russian, and someone in the US government is worried that the communications or e2ee could be compromised by another nation.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/telegram-encryption-end-to-e...

Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by sahkopoyta on Saturday December 24, 2022 @03:22AM (#34115038)
> e2ee could be compromised by another nation Which is not even enabled on regular conversations.. only on specifically created secret chats
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by washadjeffmad on Saturday December 24, 2022 @07:05AM (#34116097)
It also looks like not long ago apps were able to collect and transmit the contents of clipboards on iOS and Android.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by dinkumthinkum on Saturday December 24, 2022 @11:31AM (#34118350)
You don’t want exploitation but you want them to have access to TikTok? I think you should find out about what is on the platform and I think you will be surprised.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by nickthegreek on Saturday December 24, 2022 @03:20PM (#34120708)
The platform contains the same content as every other social media platform but with less nudity.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by dinkumthinkum on Saturday December 24, 2022 @05:53PM (#34121981)
No, that’s definitely wrong. You haven’t researched this but you are making an assumption. Does FB have a rampant system by which children are being watched and paid for, it even being common that children use filters to appear as different fevered to collect more money?
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by nickthegreek on Saturday December 24, 2022 @08:07PM (#34122970)
Are you stating there are nude children on tiktok? I am stating that TikTok has less nudity than other platforms. Maybe you are arguing that tiktok has more sexual charged content? I’d be pretty comfortable arguing that Instagram and Twitter are above tiktok in that as well.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by dinkumthinkum on Sunday December 25, 2022 @03:41PM (#34131018)
So, I’m saying children do live strip teases for money and are pain through the platform in real time.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by nickthegreek on Sunday December 25, 2022 @06:09PM (#34132488)
Incorrect. You must be 18 or older to get tips from TikTok live or enroll in the creators fund.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by CircleSpokes on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:11PM (#34113134)
University isn't the same as grade school. It is absurd a public University would do any sort of filtering or censorship on their networks.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by coderintherye on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:17PM (#34113183)
>any sort of filtering

This is a rather absurd position if you consider it. To take the absolute simplest example, you really think a school should not be allowed to filter traffic from students specifically launching purposeful attacks on school network infrastructure?

Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by np- on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:22PM (#34113205)
Attacks are a bit different than someone trying to access information, though. Much like it is illegal to punch someone in the face, unless they try to punch you first.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by CircleSpokes on Friday December 23, 2022 @11:25PM (#34113965)
Maybe I should have been more specific. In my mind there is a difference between stopping outgoing ddos attack and blocking/censoring websites.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by coderintherye on Saturday December 24, 2022 @08:23AM (#34116562)
Now define "outgoing attack". You're trying to keep it defined to "ddos" only but surely you would agree that the school filtering a student actively attempting to hijack school infrastructure to send active shooter threats to the student population should also be filtered yes?

Keep going a few steps and you'll realize that's exactly the problem, there's no level of specificity you can define here that works without some level of subjectivity. Try and see. Good luck.

Suggested reading: https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1586955288061452289

Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by thevagrant on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:21PM (#34113201)
Universities also employ academics (some of whom are outspoken toward CCP).

Possibly Universities are doing this for more than one reason?

For example to protect their staff given the recent articles about tiktok tracking of journalists

Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by feet on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:26PM (#34113220)
Really? Many universities do DNS filtering so I'm not sure where that idea comes from
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by sundvor on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:43PM (#34113317)
As a somewhat responsible parent I see TikTok as intellectual poison, or attention pornography at best.

It is banned in my house.

(I grew up on the Vic20/C64/Amiga etc; am not a Luddite).

Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by throwawaylinux on Friday December 23, 2022 @10:29PM (#34113635)
> As a somewhat responsible parent I see TikTok as intellectual poison, or attention pornography at best.

It is.

> It is banned in my house.

Good. Don't let weird internet techbros namecalling or "expert advice" influence how you raise your children, or apologize for it.

I imagine the most difficult problem with banning anything would be to make sure they don't feel or become isolated from their peers because of it. Must be tough.

Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by cute_boi on Friday December 23, 2022 @09:47PM (#34113336)
It is not up to you or me to decide what is necessary or not for school related activity. Who even decides what is necessary or unnecessary. University shouldn't censor Tiktok and allow facebook, insta . We don't live in China where government passes draconian measures.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by paganel on Saturday December 24, 2022 @02:29AM (#34114808)
It will most probably teach them very fast how to install a VPN on their phones.
Re:TikTok banned on government devices under spending bill p... by dinkumthinkum on Saturday December 24, 2022 @11:29AM (#34118325)
Sounds great to me. TikTok is pretty, I don’t see a benefit for kids to use it. The type of content it has is hyper optimized for stunting development, in my opinion, I’m a way not found in most other social media. Also, it is rife with pretty illegal content. I would just say it doesn’t seem like a big loss.