How about: "No use of any software or device that includes any cryptographic algorithms."

:-P

Back to the stone age it is!

He could still mine crypto with a pen and paper!

0.67 hashes per day

Semi-relevant XKCD:

https://xkcd.com/505/

That seems needlessly cruel.

I'm all for getting to the bottom of what SBF did, but he hasn't been convicted of any crime yet. It's important that we go through the process before applying punishments.

I wonder what those in pretrial detention in Rikers do without internet, there only because they don’t have resources to bond out.

Your solution to needless suffering is to add more needless suffering?

If we only permitted accused criminals to have public defendants, instead of being able to hire expensive lawyers, I expect that improving the public defense system would magically become a priority for everyone. If we got rid of TSA-precheck, I would expect some of the bullshit that regular travelers have to go through would be eliminated.

It's pretty easy for people with power and influence to not give a shit about what the rest of us have to deal with, when they never need to experience it.

> If we got rid of TSA-precheck, I would expect some of the bullshit that regular travelers have to go through would be eliminated. It's pretty easy for people with power and influence to not give a shit about what the rest of us have to deal with, when they never need to experience it.

I must admit: if TSA pre-check is an example of what people with power & influence get away with, then I can simply not be convinced of your case.

As a TSA-precheck member, I’ve never felt like part of the ruling class until today. Bow before me and tremble!

Probably more like equity before the law.

He caused $8 billion in suffering and you're concerned he can't use the internet?

That has not been proven. He hasn’t had a trial yet. Maybe you are unfamiliar with the US justice system, but at least in principle the idea is to only punish after someone has been found guilty.

No, it's proven and it's a fact. Legal liability within the US and to what extent, for what, hasn't been proven.

I think if his suggested crime involved use of the internet, there's a case for withholding internet from him. Hard to supervise that at a family home, however.

Cruel might be a bit of a stretch. He can read and do some sketching. Bit of home maintenance. Have a crafternoon or two.

Spend some time thinking about how to make effective altruism even more effective. And bake some sourdough bread.

Not really, my thought is any kind of bail jumping or favor calling in, or attempts at covering up evidence would be done on the internet. It's to preserve the effectiveness of the trial, not just some arbitrary punishment.

No internet? Oh the humanity

What would this achieve? I think SBF has done a load of financial crime, but I don’t think we are at risk of him spinning up a new token and making millions. Internet is required for a lot of normal shit, making it illegal is a really cruel punitive thing

> I don’t think we are at risk of him spinning up a new token and making millions.

Why not? He has stated that he intends to earn the money again to pay back the creditors.

I don’t know about cruel, he’s just preparing for a significant legal defense. Communications, researching, etc using the internet is an important part of defending himself in court which he deserves a fair shot at. The purpose of the bail is to enable him to better participate in the upcoming legal proceedings.

Don't forget the interviews!

I realize that it's easy to reach the forgone conclusion that yes, he's guilty and a criminal. You'd have to really tie yourself into knots to find out how he could be innocent. But our legal system still treats people not yet convicted as....not yet convicted.

Speaking more generically, people released on bond need to be able to have the resources necessary to form a proper defense, and also to try and avoid their entire life being destroyed by an arrest that may or may not lead to a conviction.

Normally, I agree. However, considering the statements from current CEO John J. Ray III and two guilty pleas from insiders, it is hard to believe he is innocent. In the digital era, wire fraud is so simple to prove and can carry huge jail sentences. Honestly, I wonder if he will also plead guilty. The evidence against him looks enormous. Even with a guilty plea, I expect 10-20 years jail sentence and all assets seized.