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Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by tiahura on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @07:11PM (#34088093)
Children master bike riding in a few days. Let’s not overcomplicate things.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by fluoridation on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @07:27PM (#34088208)
Oh, they master it, do they? So, you'd let a child who's been riding a bike for a week or so ride with heavy traffic, right? They've mastered it, so there's nothing else for them to learn.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by wl on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @07:21PM (#34088159)
There's a huge difference between being able to handle a bike at 5 mph, 15 mph, and 28 mph.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by burnished on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @08:18PM (#34088530)
20 year old me who just ate pavement because they didn’t know how to safely navigate street car rails would disagree.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by toast0 on Thursday December 22, 2022 @12:37AM (#34090199)
That was 40 year old me a couple years ago. Street car rails are terrible, bad for bikes and pedestrians, a lot of expense, and doesn't provide much more than a bus.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by eythian on Thursday December 22, 2022 @11:46AM (#34095354)
You should have watched this video: https://youtu.be/sEON08d76oE?t=112 it nicely explains the importance of things like tram rails, and keeping a potato in your pants.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by LAC-Tech on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @08:26PM (#34088595)
Learning to ride a bike and learning to ride one on public roads with traffic are two different skills.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by 1letterunixname on Thursday December 22, 2022 @05:53AM (#34092086)
Dumbest comment I've read in a while here. Most Americans can't seem to "master" bike riding and so they all need to wear helmets. The Dutch don't and aren't the world capital of TBIs.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by defrost on Thursday December 22, 2022 @05:58AM (#34092112)
Dumbest comment I've read in a while here. (high five, it works both ways).

The Dutch have a bicycle culture and bicycle friendly streets where cars are outnumbered and don't despise cyclists in the manner of Sydney, Australia or Mean City, USA.

The Dutch also live in a flat country and don't extreme cycle down the side of Big Sur, etc either.