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Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by defrost on Thursday December 22, 2022 @05:58AM (#34092112)
Dumbest comment I've read in a while here. (high five, it works both ways).

The Dutch have a bicycle culture and bicycle friendly streets where cars are outnumbered and don't despise cyclists in the manner of Sydney, Australia or Mean City, USA.

The Dutch also live in a flat country and don't extreme cycle down the side of Big Sur, etc either.

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