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Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane? by kayodelycaon on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @04:07PM (#34072567)
I doubt this would work. When a neurotypical person is confronted with their actions, you usually get one of four results:

1. Justify what they did.

2. Dismiss it.

3. Ignore it.

4. Deny it happened.

Note that change their behavior isn't on that list. :(

Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane? by kdmccormick on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @04:12PM (#34072647)
This is such a defeatist attitude.

I'm bipolar I, and I take lithium for it. Being confronted with my actions over and over and over and over again was a big part of what got me to start taking meds.

Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane? by kayodelycaon on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @04:42PM (#34073053)
The over and over is important. A lot of people do get the hint eventually. It's hardly as simple as showing a video.
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane? by kdmccormick on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @04:48PM (#34073124)
True. Fair enough.
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane? by Melatonic on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:22PM (#34073568)
What kind of lithium do you take? I have heard that the prescribed doses can be pretty sedating or brutal but there are also people advocating for very tiny doses of lithium in a different form that is similar to what is found in some natural wells. Could be completely pseudoscience but it seemed interesting
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane? by kdmccormick on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @06:38PM (#34074500)
Lithium carb pills, at the lower end of the standard therapeutic range. There are a range of side effects, luckily for me not severe enough to impact my day to day--the most noticable one is just being thirsty all the time. We'll see if that stays true as I age, though... kidney damage is a big risk down the road.

And yup, there's some newer research about the long term benefits such as lowering alzheimer's risk, which is a nice silver lining :) My doctors have mentioned it, so probably not pseudoscience.

Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane? by hdlothia on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @05:49AM (#34079011)
They are not talking about the patients. Bipolar ppl are neurodivergent
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane? by kdmccormick on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @10:31AM (#34081953)
I took their comment as "nt people don't usually change so why would you expect nd people to?" and I wanted to point out that nd people can indeed change, regardless of whether nt people can.
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane? by kbelder on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:30PM (#34073657)
>neurotypical

You mean the opposite of that?

Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane? by kayodelycaon on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:56PM (#34074005)
No, I meant neurotypical. I guess I could have said "normal" or "average". It's also culturally dependent, so maybe I should have just said Americans.