Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane?
by kdmccormick on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @04:12PM
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This is such a defeatist attitude.
I'm bipolar I, and I take lithium for it. Being confronted with my actions over and over and over and over again was a big part of what got me to start taking meds.
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane?
by kayodelycaon on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @04:42PM
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The over and over is important. A lot of people do get the hint eventually. It's hardly as simple as showing a video.
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane?
by kdmccormick on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @04:48PM
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True. Fair enough.
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane?
by Melatonic on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:22PM
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What kind of lithium do you take? I have heard that the prescribed doses can be pretty sedating or brutal but there are also people advocating for very tiny doses of lithium in a different form that is similar to what is found in some natural wells. Could be completely pseudoscience but it seemed interesting
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane?
by kdmccormick on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @06:38PM
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Lithium carb pills, at the lower end of the standard therapeutic range. There are a range of side effects, luckily for me not severe enough to impact my day to day--the most noticable one is just being thirsty all the time. We'll see if that stays true as I age, though... kidney damage is a big risk down the road.
And yup, there's some newer research about the long term benefits such as lowering alzheimer's risk, which is a nice silver lining :) My doctors have mentioned it, so probably not pseudoscience.
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane?
by hdlothia on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @05:49AM
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They are not talking about the patients. Bipolar ppl are neurodivergent
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane?
by kdmccormick on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @10:31AM
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I took their comment as "nt people don't usually change so why would you expect nd people to?" and I wanted to point out that nd people can indeed change, regardless of whether nt people can.
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane?
by kbelder on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:30PM
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>neurotypical
You mean the opposite of that?
Re:Is forced treatment for the mentally ill ever humane?
by kayodelycaon on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:56PM
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No, I meant neurotypical. I guess I could have said "normal" or "average". It's also culturally dependent, so maybe I should have just said Americans.
1. Justify what they did.
2. Dismiss it.
3. Ignore it.
4. Deny it happened.
Note that change their behavior isn't on that list. :(