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Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @01:36PM (#34070197)
I was unable to obtain a mortgage for a decade because LexisNexis Risk Solutions was reporting a judgement inaccurately on my risk profile that they would not remove until I had a lawyer file suit against them and notified the CFPB. I received a $600 check as part of a class action settlement. I was lucky, and had the means to obtain creative financing when needed. Others are not so lucky.

I totally understand people who want to burn parts of the system down. Sometimes, they’re not wrong.

Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by mbg721 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @01:56PM (#34070547)
I agree 100%; what can a layman like me do to fix it?
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @03:04PM (#34071700)
You’re not going to like my answer. I don’t like my answer. It’s never ending work.

Always vote, run for office if you can, and/or become and stay engaged as a citizen activist. See something? Report it to regulators. Think something’s up? Go digging. Engage with other folks who are doing the same and provide logistical support if able to.

I spend thousands of dollars a year on FOIA fees and attorney opinion and correspondence costs, but I have the means and the time. Overarching thesis is “Find someone to help and help them.” -DeviantOllam [1] of “Lawyer. Passport. Locksmith. Gun.” Saintcon talk fame [2].

[1] https://twitter.com/deviantollam

[2] https://youtu.be/6ihrGNGesfI

Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by mbg721 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @08:04PM (#34075363)
I think the answer I was expecting was that it's a two-step process: 1) Be lucky, and 2) Don't be unlucky. My next-door neighbor is actually a local politician, but her party affiliation is the one I dislike, so I'm getting a life-lesson in humility.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @08:37PM (#34075594)
I’ve never been good at delivering bad news, my apologies.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by droopyEyelids on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @03:07PM (#34071744)
I don't know if this is what you intend, but it sounds like you're baiting an answer about vigilante style "justice" to the executives/board members of these misbehaving corporations.

That would be counterproductive and probably only cause them to treat us with less empathy than they do already.

Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by johnfn on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @03:34PM (#34072124)
I'm not advocating for "vigilante justice" either, but if that's the clearest / first thought you have when someone authentically asks "what can I do," that's probably a problem :P
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by ska on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @03:38PM (#34072179)
Vote: both with your actual vote, and with your money.

The big banks lost all my business years ago. It's occasionally inconvenient, but overall I'm very happy with the decision.

Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by hdhdhdh88 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:02PM (#34073322)
If possible, leave USA. There are political systems around the world that aren’t broken and there are some that are actually being fixed by voters (e.g. Australia). But USA is broken for at least our lifetimes.

You only live once.

Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by gretch on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:36PM (#34073737)
The reason those other places around the world aren’t broken* is because people had the mentality of putting in hard work toward the future. If everyone shared what you thought and fled at a moment of hardship, the whole world would go to shit really fast.

*your opinion, not mine. I don’t think USA is that bad of a place and I don’t put Australia on a pedestal.

Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by PaulDavisThe1st on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @06:20PM (#34074273)
If this is true, who is going to fix it and where will they come from?

If this is not true, then ... well then you're just wrong.

Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @07:14PM (#34074885)
I’m leaving for Western Europe, all of the tools I need for advocacy and accountability work just fine from over there (laptop and mobile device are all that is required). I’m unable to run for office, I am not an ideal candidate for various reasons. I want the country improved long term, but am unwilling to suffer in the short term because of, for lack of a better words, the malevolent and troglodytes. In the case of voting, you can’t persuade some people even with evidence and data. You might just have to wait for old people to age out (1.8 million voters over the age of 55 age out every year) and younger folks (open to new ideas and mental models) to come of age, before there are improved chances of success. If you have to wait somewhere, don’t wait here if you don’t have to (life lesson: never suffer needlessly).

(I also contribute time to helping anyone wanting to expat out of the US get to higher quality jurisdictions, Europe, Australia, etc)

Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by PaulDavisThe1st on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @07:16PM (#34074901)
I grew up in Western Europe. I intend to die in the US.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @07:20PM (#34074954)
Enjoy (genuinely). I don’t know where I’ll die, I just know where I don’t want to live. Everything is temporary, and I don’t have much hope near term here.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by germinalphrase on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @09:31PM (#34076004)
I don’t anticipate taking advantage of the advice, but can you share any references on navigating such a long term move to Europe? I’ve been told Portugal is a good starting point.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by toomuchtodo on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:19PM (#34076251)
https://youtube.com/@OurRichJourney (Specially the videos about Portugal, not general investing advice videos)

https://old.reddit.com/r/expatFIRE (search for “Portugal D7 visa”)

Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by aprdm on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @12:08AM (#34076894)
What's your opinion on Canada jurisdiction ?
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by toomuchtodo on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @09:59AM (#34081508)
Solid jurisdiction to consider but too cold for my tastes and parts are expensive. If you can afford Vancouver or Toronto, or don’t mind living in Calgary or Montreal (one of my favorite places on Earth when warm, also the safest city in North America) instead, it’s a fine place to expat to while remaining close to US soil.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by mbg721 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @08:15PM (#34075433)
I think the real lesson, rather than "leave the USA", is "have a close-knit support structure".
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by Kye on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @04:12PM (#34072650)
The CFPB is so good. It's one of a small number of federal agencies that actually has teeth. I went 30 rounds with PNC after they devoured what was left of Simple before someone suggested filing a CFPB complaint. Basically, I received some mail for the account despite being assured it was closed before the Simple closure.

I asked for a letter stating in no uncertain terms that the account was closed and that I wouldn't be liable for anything if they screwed up. They bombarded me with emails and calls for a week trying to avoid working through the CFPB before finally answering the complaint with what I asked for. I was adamant that it happen with the CFPB so their statement would be on file. Now the PDF is there if the bank gives me any trouble.

People report similar success filing FCC complaints to get action from phone companies and ISPs that otherwise ignore them.

Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s... by roughly on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @08:23PM (#34075489)
> The CFPB is so good. It's one of a small number of federal agencies that actually has teeth.

Naturally, the GOP has been trying to gut it for years.