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Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by jojobas on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @06:39AM (#34064535)
By banning words like "retard" you just create a void that will be filled with another word very quickly (the word itself used to be a medical term).

Imbecile, special needs, oligophrenic, whatever, something associated with intellectual disability will be used instead.

They are not trying to ban "harmful language" from being said or written, they are trying to have you suppress "harmful thoughts", or ideally render you incapable of harbouring them.

Do you want Stanford (or anyone else) to dictate what you can think?

Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by iinnPP on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @06:45AM (#34064589)
It's also worth noting that insults don't need to be real language or any language.

Just laughing can be incredibly offensive.

So an aggressor has infinite words to use and is effectively impossible to censor.

I hesitate to mention SouthPark, but they do an episode where Cartman is especially cruel using laughter as his weapon. It's quite effective and obviously offensive. Unlike the list in the article.

Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by warkdarrior on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @01:16PM (#34069867)
I expect laughter will be a banned behavior on next year's version of the list.
Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by TeMPOraL on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @06:49AM (#34064615)
> By banning words like "retard" you just create a void that will be filled with another word very quickly (the word itself used to be a medical term).

You can see this happening in the Stanford list itself - some of the terms listed, particularly in the "Ableist" section, are clearly second or third iteration through the euphemism treadmill.

In fact, some could be about to complete another one - for example, my self-preservation instinct on the Internet tells me I shouldn't use "disabled" as an adjective, despite it being listed as a proper alternative to "crippled". I fully expect "disabled" to land in the left column of this or similar list in a couple of years.

Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by jojobas on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @06:56AM (#34064674)
I just checked and "differently abled" is apparently no-no already.

It's as if a choice of words can change the unfortunate fact that losing a leg sucks.

https://www.betterup.com/blog/differently-abled

Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by TedDoesntTalk on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @09:03AM (#34065987)
Then what do you use in a UI to label something “disabled”?
Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by eclipxe on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:27AM (#34067180)
Inactive.
Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by goatlover on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:51AM (#34067569)
This is getting ridiculous.
Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by jojobas on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @11:11AM (#34067897)
"Disabled". Do not apologize, do not even acknowledge the people who want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.
Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by bluedino on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @08:59AM (#34065938)
> I fully expect "disabled" to land in the left column of this or similar list in a couple of years.

I worked for a company that sold medical supplies and we got a phone call about a disabled user message on our website.

Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:17AM (#34067020)
They would be better off with a class on sensitivity training, that basically boils down to "stop being a dick". Besides lists of acceptable discourse or newspeak, they should teach students to be civil.

And if people still need a list or a class to be taught that e.g. the N word is offensive, they have no place in Stanford.

Re:Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative by slothtrop on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:38AM (#34067362)
The interesting thing to me with this instance of the euphemism treadmill is that people seem to have either amnesia or zero cognitive dissonance about words that were once deemed insensitive and mean the same damn thing. 'Retard' replaced 'moron', for instance, because moron was deemed insensitive in the medical world. Before that there was the gamut everyone knows of: idiot, stupid, etc. These words are only effective as insults because of their meaning, but proponents of suppression pretend the words live in a no-man's land of having no meaning, existing only as being derogatory.

The only thing more insane would be the expectation that insults of any kind, for any reason, no longer be tolerated (some do suggest this, which is at least consistent).