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Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by pavlov on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @03:03AM (#34062969)
As the pharaohs already discovered, an immortality plan that depends on generations of low-paid underlings to maintain the dead elite's physical bodies is fundamentally flawed.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by wiz21c on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @03:14AM (#34063055)
Fortunately, this statement is true for many plans of the elite :-)
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by recuter on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:00AM (#34063844)
I too upon hearing of a lunatic beating a frozen disembodied head to gallagheresque pulp with a blunt instrument can't help but smile sardonically if the resulting goop was formerly wealthier than me. Cool and normal. Power to the people bro. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by aussieshibe on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:48AM (#34064151)
It's just like I always say: class warfare is a dish best served cryogenically frozen.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by lovich on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @06:06AM (#34064290)
Might have done the world a service. Immortality combined with winner takes all capitalism will just lead to an entrenched race of god emperors that won’t be removed ever except by society wide violence, basically like medieval kingdoms or dynastic empires. Market economies have helped limit that a bit(wealth inheritances still have a problem), but one of the unstated backstops of that system is that eventually the rich people in question do eventually die
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by arkh on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @06:24AM (#34064420)
> Immortality

If your body is not damaged enough. It would mean a lot of people would become really risk averse. If generalized it would fossilize a society really fast.

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by aluminaient on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @01:24AM (#34077352)
You've repeated their point.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by recuter on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @06:09AM (#34064313)
The ends justify the monkey wrenches, eh?
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by wongarsu on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @08:26AM (#34065529)
A guilloutine wouldn't have worked in this case
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by lovich on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @03:21PM (#34071929)
If the other ends are live under immortal elites who never give up power, then kinda yea. That's was a lot of the reasoning behind peasants taking up arms against monarchies
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by coldpie on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @09:41AM (#34066505)
Either democracy fixes the wealth gap, or violence does. And democracy ain't lookin' too hot over the past ten years.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by recuter on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @11:43AM (#34068412)
I'm no doctor but my guess is the frozen disembodied head was already dead..
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by kbelder on Thursday December 22, 2022 @12:16PM (#34095764)
It's still a crime.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by trompetenaccoun on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @01:01PM (#34069647)
All must be equal, then we will be free! Use violence if necessary, it will leads us right into utopia.

https://i.redd.it/0h112jbq7js91.png

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by aluminaient on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @01:23AM (#34077344)
Naive to think otherwise.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by throwuwu on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @01:12PM (#34069807)
I hope your dream job is digging turnips out of the ground. Although given historical precedent you’d have a higher chance of winding up in the ground after a violent revolution.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by Ialdaboth on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:53AM (#34064203)
It's the reason why they switched from low-paid underlings to a little better paid caste of technocatric petty bourgeoisie for the XXIst century ;)
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by starkd on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:01AM (#34066769)
They've also switched from preservation to attempting to avoid death altogether through stem cell treatments and longevity drugs.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by renox on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @07:14AM (#34064841)
Uh? They already knew that which is why they tried to hide their tombs..
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by Balgair on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @09:33AM (#34066416)
The builders of the pyramids tried to hide their tombs?
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by bigbillheck on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @09:44AM (#34066557)
The pyramids were very early on in Egyptian history, they had a couple thousand years to refine the approach.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by seanw444 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:11AM (#34066928)
To my understanding, not a single pharaoh was found in a pyramid. Most were found in the Valley of the Kings.

It's also worth noting that there are no hieroglyphs inside the Great Pyramids (which are supposedly said to be tombs), when the Valley of the Kings (an actual tomb) was caked in them.

Also, the only written text depicting the construction of the Great Pyramids, that I could find, is (again, supposedly) the Famine Stele. I find it highly questionable that there is only one text that tells us of the most notable construction of ancient Egypt's entire existence, and one of the most notable buildings to date. And not a single hieroglyph amongst the Pyramids' vicinity says anything about it either.

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by pavlov on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @11:14AM (#34067939)
Over 1000 years passed between the construction of the Great Pyramids and the time when the Valley of the Kings started to be in use. Of course decorative styles would be different!

It's not very surprising that we don't have a lot of texts about the construction of buildings that are 4,500 years old. The pyramids are incredibly ancient, and were ancient when later pharaohs tried to understand who built them.

For comparison, the Notre Dame of Paris is closer to our time than the Pyramids were to the pharaohs who built their tombs in the Valley of the Kings.

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by throwuwu on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @01:09PM (#34069767)
Do we only have that handful of examples from that period or are there other contemporaneous tombs that are not pyramids? Or smaller pyramids? The thing I always thought was so weird about the pyramids is why there are so few of them. You’d think there would be lots of smaller and medium size ones leading up to the cluster of big ones if they were in fact tombs.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by pavlov on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @01:59PM (#34070607)
There are in fact lots of pyramids and flatter proto-pyramids of various sizes! The total number is probably in the thousands, I believe.

Many have also been demolished in ancient times so the stones could be reused. For example the pyramid of Djedefre, son of Khufu who built the famous Great Pyramid. Instead of competing on size, the son made a smaller pyramid of more beautiful stone, but unfortunately the stone was too valuable to let stand and was repurposed over millennia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_of_Djedefre

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by kjs3 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @02:04PM (#34070691)
There are over a hundred pyramids identified in Egypt of varying size and age, so depends on your definition of 'handful'. But to your question, there's the mastaba tomb starting from 3000bc or so, and it's flat toped and not a pyramid. Some scholars think the pyramid idea evolved from the mastaba (by stacking increasingly smaller mastabas on top of one another; see: Step Pyramid). There are lots of them.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by jinonoel on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:34PM (#34076338)
One fact that blew my mind recently is that Cleopatra is closer to our present time than to the creation of the pyramids.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by fsckboy on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @11:27PM (#34076644)
also note that Cleopatra was Greek, not Egyptian.

"Queen of the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt from 51 to 30 BC, and its last active ruler. A member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, she was a descendant of its founder Ptolemy I Soter, a Macedonian Greek general and companion of Alexander the Great."

So, inasmuch as she thought about the pyramids, it was as a colonizer.