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Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by harry8 on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:27PM (#34060787)
So here is one of my current fav. conspiracy theories AND it involves Elon.

Remember the first payload of his "Falcon Heavy" rocket - some tesla or other? Had a tailor's dummy in a space suit strapped in the front seat.

That was a real person in the suit who had paid for the most effective, reliable and longest lasting cryogenic freeze available. No maintenance power required. Will continue to be frozen even if the earth explodes. Not beholdent to anyone alive to make the right decisions...

Elon decided not to just hide it in plain sight but make a spectacle of it with live feeds etc.

Probably nonsense but makes a certian amount more logical sense than a dummy in a space suit, huh?

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by LarryMullins on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:41PM (#34060884)
It's in heliocentric orbit, it's getting cooked by solar radiation every day, taking the full brunt of solar flares without a magnetosphere to protect it, etc. If there were a body in the suit, it would surely turn into beef jerky. Or perhaps soup, if the suit can keep the fluids in. All the DNA would be shattered beyond repair by intense gamma radiation.

> but makes a certian amount more logical sense than a dummy in a space suit, huh?

It makes sense as a Heavy Metal reference.

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by hotpotamus on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:45PM (#34060908)
One potential limitation of cryogenics is that the radio isotopes in your own body will eventually cause too much damage to your DNA since natural repair processes will be offline as well. Obviously the radiation environment in space is much worse.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by eftychis on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @12:57AM (#34062111)
That is a good point.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by sassy_quat on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @02:44AM (#34062840)
This absence of evidence is proof of a need for genuine study.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by rl3 on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @01:42AM (#34062435)
>If there were a body in the suit, it would surely turn into beef jerky.

This isn't necessarily a problem:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34060818

"And even if they could be bothered, the thawed would be a lab experiment, owned by whatever corporation pulled off the magic."

That feeling when you wake up from your secret space cryostasis, only to discover you're the living (?) embodiment of meat, now owned by Arby's.

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by pnpnp on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:33PM (#34060825)
It can actually get really hot in space without some kind of active heat transfer. The body in the suit would probably alternate between freezing and frying. Not a great way to preserve a body IMO.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by harry8 on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:39PM (#34060870)
Trying to use facts, logic, and this "science" stuff against me is futile as I have a perfectly good conspiracy theory!

The silver suit couldn't insulate and keep the heat out?

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by jacquesm on Monday December 19, 2022 @10:07PM (#34061048)
> The silver suit couldn't insulate and keep the heat out?

If you so wish to believe...

The problem is that there is no air to carry away the heat so that whole setup becomes like a miniature greenhouse. Without some active way to cool it eventually you'd cook.

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by SapporoChris on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @05:56AM (#34064218)
Heat can transfer via Conduction, Convection and Radiation. The vacuum of space may prevent the first two, but not loss of heat via Radiation. Infrared radiation to be precise. The heat loss is very slow, so yes at times it would be a miniature greenhouse.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by elkos on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:39PM (#34060868)
Depends on where in space. In LEO... sure. In the orbit of the Tesla Roadster it's mostly warm isn't it?
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by pnpnp on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @02:38PM (#34071299)
Since it’s never really in the shadow of a planet (heliocentric orbit), it’s probably hotter overall.

From the videos I’ve seen, it’s also spinning really slowly. I think you could see off-gassing in some of the videos. I looked into it a little further, and there was speculation it was from the plastics and paint getting extremely hot in direct sunlight.

“Space” is roughly the same temperature (a little warmer near stars with particles and free gas), but the direct solar radiation is what is so hot. Since space is an excellent insulator, getting rid of the thermal energy becomes a problem when you’re not shaded.

If you want to read some more on this, check out what the JWST has done for thermal management. It’s really cool (no pun intended).

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by semicolon_storm on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:40PM (#34060876)
Even if you were to stay frozen, the radiation you'd be exposed to in space would shred you at a cellular level way before the technology would come around to bring you back.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by elkos on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:40PM (#34060875)
Or maybe that's the real Elon and that's an imposter?
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by reducesuffering on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:37PM (#34060852)
> makes a certain amount more logical sense than a dummy in a space suit

Have you heard of Occam's Razor?

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by ars on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:43PM (#34060894)
Scientifically not so good. Radiation damage will destroy everything in that body if someone actually did that.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by dukeofdoom on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:55PM (#34060964)
The recent conspiracy I read is that Elon might be making clones of himself.

The last post Ye (Kanye) mades was a symbol that had a star of David with a swastika in it. And Elon personally kicked him off twitter immediately.

But that's actually a symbol for this cultish religious group.

"Raëlism teaches that an extraterrestrial species known as the Elohim created humanity using their advanced technology. It claims that throughout history the Alohim have created 40 Elohim/human hybrids who have served as prophets" You can see the symbol on their wikipedia page.

Raëlism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism

Remember when they cloned Dolly the sheep ... That was over 20 years ago.

Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by xwdv on Monday December 19, 2022 @10:45PM (#34061280)
Elohim, God on high.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by the_gipsy on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @03:31AM (#34063169)
> In 1998, Raël established the Order of Angels, an internal all-female group whose members are largely sequestered from wider society and tasked with training themselves to become the Elohim's consorts.
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by King-Aaron on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @01:57AM (#34062546)
Wouldn't it boil into soup as soon as the car faced the sun?
Re:What ever happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans? by yreg on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @03:46AM (#34063293)
Science doesn't hold up, but immediate headcanon.