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Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by trillic on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:26AM (#33983888)
Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

He opened with,

"I would like to start by formally stating, under oath: I fucked up."

This dude's lawyers are either fucked in the head or nonexistent.

Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by jcranmer on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:36AM (#33983994)
At one point in the saga, he fired his lawyers because they were telling him to shut the fuck up and he didn't want to. Whatever lawyers he has now are probably still telling him to shut the fuck up, and he's completely ignoring their advice right now. Great idea, by the way, when you're facing criminal charges.
Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by foobarian on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:24AM (#33985766)
I wonder if he has some kind of personality bias stemming from being raised by a couple of lawyers. Kids often rebel against the immediate ancestor generation, could this be him lashing out at all things lawyer-like, "disrupting" it and doing things "his way?"
Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by likpok on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @12:06PM (#33986414)
SBF is not the first person who thinks they are smarter than their lawyers. It even fits the pattern of "physics person dismissive of other fields" (e.g. https://xkcd.com/793/)!

I dunno if we need to go too far into the particulars of his life to explain it. When Popehat was talking about the legal troubles of people in Trump's orbit this came up a lot (and a lot of those people were lawyers!).

Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by lr1970 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @06:20PM (#33992285)
> "physics person dismissive of other fields"

This reminds me of an old physicist-lawyer joke:

A physicist goes to see a lawyer. He knows that above all the lawyer is interested in getting his money. So the physicist not wanting to be taken for a sucker walks into the room and fires right away: - Hi, how much do you charge?

The lawyer fires back: - $400 for two questions. What is your second question?

Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by AlexandrB on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:06AM (#33984396)
> This dude's lawyers are either fucked in the head or nonexistent.

The latter, the first batch quit already: https://futurism.com/the-byte/sam-bankman-fried-lawyers-quit...

Not sure who's representing him now.

Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by batmenace on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:47AM (#33984143)
Also, a good chunk of this is him essentially insulting one of the more respected and high-performing law firms out there. He's gonna have a fun time trying to get some other firm to help him...
Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by pinko on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:44AM (#33985077)
Do lawyers really take anything like that personally, on behalf of other lawyers? I find that hard to believe...
Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by rippercushions on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:53AM (#33985242)
It's just business sense: if the previous guy drops the client like a hot potato, it's a pretty strong hint that they're trouble. Although in SBF's case you don't really need to rely on subtle hints to find that out.
Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by mistrial9 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:59AM (#33986324)
lawyers in California are in a register, available to others in the profession. Over time, law practice diverges significantly, and the norms of those specialties are partly cultural and partly for saving-face or other sorts of soft-values. The truth is that half of what lawyers do involves serious-life-changing winners or losers, so there is a thick skin of indifference among many. With all that said - certain specialties of generally-rivalrous groups do keep careful track of the opposition names and faces, probably less careful track of ally names and faces. Some of those lawyers have a very, very good memory for these things. $0.02
Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by bena on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:21AM (#33984667)
He's a guy who believes he's way smarter than he actually is. He's confused luck with skill and thinks he understands things better than everyone else.

He doesn't consider the bad case scenarios because in his mind, he'll have planned for them. But he is in this scenario. Which is a bad case. That he didn't plan for. That is bad because of his attitude and lack of planning.

He thinks he can somehow fast-talk Congress into thinking he didn't commit a crime.

He's going to go to jail thinking that the jury fucked up by finding him guilty. If they just understood, they'd realize he's better than everyone and deserves to be free and rich and to use your money.

Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by OnuRC on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:53AM (#33985237)
To a certain point, he got special treatment like almost no other in recent memory. From top people/investors too.
Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by CPLX on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:02AM (#33985412)
I think this is taking him way too seriously.

He’s an active drug addict and career criminal. His ramblings about how it was someone else’s fault and he just needs someone to give him a little more money because his plans were sound make just as much sense coming from a white guy with impressive parents as they do coming from anyone else.

Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by bena on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:34AM (#33985922)
How do you see that I'm taking him seriously?

I'm basically calling him at best an average guy who believes he is brilliant because he got lucky and who now believes his own press release.

Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by hef19898 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:06PM (#33989532)
Your first two paragraphs could describe one founder I know as well... So far he and his pals only burned 800 million or so, and didn't defraud anyone as far as I can tell.
Re:SBF Written Testimony Notes 12/12/2022 by gizmo686 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:24PM (#33989898)
Compared to some of the confessions he has made in other interviews, I don't think anything here is too bad.

Regarding the "I fucked up" line, I'm not sure that is damaging at all (except possibly the tone; who knows how that will play with a jury).

His lawyers may intend to argue that he was merely made mistakes, and therefore had no intent to defraud anyone.