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Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by HPMOR on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @10:24PM (#33979652)
He should not go to prison for life. Nobody should ever go to prison for life, for wasting money. Money is literally made up. Sure, opportunity cost is real, but seriously nobody should ever lose their life for money.
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by laluser on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @01:48AM (#33980757)
Think about it this way. Money is people's time. SBF stole billions of hours of people's personal time. Effort, savings, sweat, tears all bundled in what we call money. Why shouldn't he repay them with his own time in jail?
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by standardly on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @05:42PM (#33991775)
That doesn't really repay them anything.
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by richardwhiuk on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @10:45PM (#33979772)
What happens if they money was someone else's means to pay for their health care?

Money is made up - that doesn't mean it doesn't have consequences.

Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by mcv on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @04:41AM (#33981637)
As warning, not as victim blaming, I'd like to point out that you should never ever risk money that you can't afford to lose on high-risk investments. Especially not extremely high risk stuff like cryptocurrencies, NFTs and similar scams.
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by HPMOR on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @12:36AM (#33980343)
I am of the mindset that non-violent offenders, should not suffer a life penalty regardless of their alleged crime. They played a game and lost, they should not lose their head as well.
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by heartbeats on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:09AM (#33980866)
A game with whose stakes?
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by wikfwikf on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @05:15AM (#33981810)
Hear me out, what if we allowed people to access health care regardless of who has how much money?
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by oblio on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @06:24AM (#33982158)
While your direct point is valid (for the US), you're missing the general point.

Money can be tied to life changing/life threatening events or situations in many more scenarios.

The archetypal scenarios are people losing college money, retirement savings, downpayments for their kid's apartments/houses, etc.

There are many ways in which money is very, very real.

Anyone who still clings to this "fiat" thesis is just detached from human reality.

Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by j-krieger on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:14AM (#33983715)
He stole billions of possible retirement money. Of course he should go to prison for life.
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by SyzygistSix on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:46AM (#33984129)
How will wasting his life behind bars help bring restitution?
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by phone8675309 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @05:35PM (#33991681)
Making him grind out restitution at $1/hr on hard labor would do it.
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by j-krieger on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @06:13AM (#34079170)
Contrary to popular belief, prison is not entirely about reforming people but part punishment as well as protecting society from repeat offenders.

Also, he chose to open himself to the dangers of wasting his life behind bars when he enganged in incredibly illegal activities. It's not hard to not do that.

Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by SyzygistSix on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:42AM (#33984073)
True. The focus should be as much on rehabilitation and restitution.
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by cellis on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @11:08PM (#33979903)
DPR is rotting for life, for contracting a hit on an entirely fictional person and mostly conducting a very upstanding market. I never thought that was fair, but US laws are US laws.
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by HPMOR on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @12:38AM (#33980354)
I'm not familiar with what you are referring to, however I would argue that attempted assassination <> losing custodial funds.
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by ricochet11 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @01:21AM (#33980624)
DPR == Dread Pirate Roberts == Ross Ulbricht (Silk Road operator)
Re:The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Ind... by smeej on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:03AM (#33984339)
DPR =/= Ross Ulbricht, at least not in reality.

FBI agents who were proven to have access to that handle are also in prison for it. There's no 1:1 "Ross is DPR," and that's part of the problem.