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Re:Asia’s advanced economies now have lower birth rates than... by Aeolun on Sunday December 11, 2022 @01:22AM (#33940638)
They are, actually. Japan is a very good country to raise children in. Basically everything from giving birth, to kindergarden to medical care is completely free for kids.

It’s a really weird experience to go to the emergency ward of one of the most famous childrens hospitals in Japan and have the guy say ‘your bill comes to $0’ after.

Both parents can take up to 1 year of combined childcare leave after a birth (part of that at 60% salary).

There’s “Children’s hall” s scattered across the neighborhoods that are basically a free playroom, toy repository and library for kids up to high school age.

Kindergardens have been sprouting up like trees all over the country. I think the last time I read any stats about it there were like 6000 kids on a waiting list in the entire country. And again, free or mostly free.

Housing is relatively small, but also affordable, even in the 23 wards of Tokyo. If you go outside Tokyo you can find really nice houses for dirt cheap.

At least it’s not for lack of facilities/benefits that Japan isn’t having children.

Re:Asia’s advanced economies now have lower birth rates than... by borissk on Sunday December 11, 2022 @01:54AM (#33940809)
>> It’s a really weird experience to go to the emergency ward of one of the most famous children's hospitals in Japan and have the guy say ‘your bill comes to $0’ after.

Having lived in US and in a few countries with completely free healthcare, I'd have to correct you that the really weird experience is going to a hospital and getting a 6 figure bill.

Re:Asia’s advanced economies now have lower birth rates than... by lotsofpulp on Sunday December 11, 2022 @05:38AM (#33942028)
A $100k+ bill in the USA would be weird too. Assuming you are insured (86%), most people would get a bill for $3k to $10k (including C section and epidural). Legally, the most it could be is $18k.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/health-insurance.htm

https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/out-of-pocket-maximum-li...

Re:Asia’s advanced economies now have lower birth rates than... by borissk on Monday December 12, 2022 @03:47AM (#33952413)
Well I guess the remaining 14% of the population are just weird :)

I didn't mean only going to hospital for labor and birth.

Re:Asia’s advanced economies now have lower birth rates than... by Lio on Sunday December 11, 2022 @02:26AM (#33941004)
> It’s a really weird experience to go to the emergency ward of one of the most famous childrens hospitals in Japan and have the guy say ‘your bill comes to $0’ after.

I would guess that’s only weird if you live in a country with only private medical care.

In a LOT of countries free, at the point of service, medical care is the norm.

I mean, I understand on one level that in lots of places medical professionals would refuse to treat a pregnant woman or a child without a source of funds. On another though it’s seems very alien to me.

I’ve tried to state that in plain, unemotional language but it is a “weird” concept here. I guess it’s just what you’re used to.

Re:Asia’s advanced economies now have lower birth rates than... by deaddodo on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @12:50PM (#33972710)
> I mean, I understand on one level that in lots of places medical professionals would refuse to treat a pregnant woman or a child without a source of funds. On another though it’s seems very alien to me.

You can't be turned away for lifesaving or critical procedures.

If you go to the hospital in labor, or with a gunshot wound, or an infected abscess, etc; they'll treat you (they're legally bound to). You get your bill after services rendered.

At least in California, you can also go to a myriad of clinics for free-cheap preventative services so your toothache doesn't turn into an abscess.

Re:Asia’s advanced economies now have lower birth rates than... by fomine3 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @07:56PM (#33949518)
An obvious blocker still existing is that govt don't allow different surnames. Some couples don't marry due to this until pregnancy. Some right wings dislike the idea and they belong to long running ruling party.
Re:Asia’s advanced economies now have lower birth rates than... by matheusmoreira on Sunday December 11, 2022 @09:21AM (#33943433)
That's interesting. I always thought economics were the number one reason why people don't have more children: it's extremely expensive. Why isn't the birthrate increasing despite all these incentives?
Re:Asia’s advanced economies now have lower birth rates than... by Aeolun on Sunday December 11, 2022 @10:16AM (#33943855)
If you want your kids to go to what Japanese people consider good schools (private, extremely hard entrance exam), suddenly things become expensive quite rapidly. Fees for the school, but also tutoring to make them pass the exams in the first place. Then you get to university, and unless you go to a state university, that’s a ton of money again.

This was more to illustrate that it’s not for lack of governmental intervention.

Re:Asia’s advanced economies now have lower birth rates than... by gusgus01 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @01:42AM (#33940735)
I recently watched this YouTube video: https://youtu.be/_pAJMdx14V0

As an American, that delivery is comparatively cheap and extravagant, but it's hardly free.