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Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by exclusiv on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:19AM (#33891939)
> my daily use for it was checking if the coffee was cool enough to drink

My wife has the same issue with hot coffee which drives me a little nuts. She uses a normal mug most of the time. Because she isn't certified in coffee temp detection like I am; she waits and waits, gets distracted, and eventually it becomes too cold. So she reheats it in the microwave, usually to the point where it's too hot, and that cycle continues after it gets too cold again. She's probably reheated coffee in the microwave up to 4-5 times a day at times. It's hilarious and ridiculous. As an engineer, admittedly, I enjoy the hilarity so much I'm not sure if I care about it being resolved!

The issue is two-fold:

1) She lets the coffee hit the outermost parts of her lips and subjects herself to getting destroyed by the high temp lol. I don't understand why this is so difficult for people. Your outermost lips are more sensitive. Don't do that. You don't attack hot coffee like it's a fine bourbon. Also you can feel the temp and steam to know not to even attempt based on your preference and tolerance.

2) She isn't sitting at a desk consistently like most of us. She's everywhere in the house and then leaves, and her coffee intake isn't a priority like many of us.

If I put her coffee in a stainless steel mug with a lid, then it takes too long to cool to her temp. She leaves the lid off to cool and then forgets about returning to it in time. And she doesn't end up drinking the coffee because it becomes too cool. So now she would have to transfer to a microwaveable mug to reheat and start that cycle so she doesn't even bother. If I'm prepping her a roadie coffee, I must pour it, leave the lid off for a period of time and then place it back on so she will attempt drinking it in time in the car to commit to it. If it's too hot, she will more than likely just abandon it and not check back in before we reach our destination.

I got her an Ember mug so she can read the actual temp and control it. But it's not dishwasher safe of course. So she doesn't tend to use it. And from the fresh brewed carafe to the Ember still is too hot, unless the lid is off for some time like the stainless steel mug, lol.

The ideal mug for her would thus be an Ember mug that is dishwasher safe and thus have some sort of twist mechanism to disconnect the battery and status/controls portion from the core mug function. And probably have a vent mechanism on the lid (maybe a double pop on the Ember lid to vent more?) to more quickly get the temp down from initial temp, as the heated mug portion can ensure the set temp is hit anyway.

Someone please build that and save me! Or don't, and I'll enjoy the entertainment derived from the struggle. :)

Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by krzyk on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @09:19AM (#33894583)
I also don't like hot coffee (or anything too hot, soups etc.) which drives my wife mad.

Before making coffee I put a cup into the fridge so the coffee will cool faster, I have not issues with cold coffee, I just don't want to wait that long.

I also used to add ice to coffee, but that was diluting it.

Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by prennert on Thursday December 08, 2022 @02:41AM (#33905309)
I used to do this with my Aeropress. I added an icecube on top of the ground coffee and poured boiling water over it. It reduced the temperature from 100°C to about 80°C if I remember correctly. Anyway, it came out ready to drink, and generally you can just brew with less water and then the dilution is not a problem.
Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by tsm on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @05:30AM (#33892781)
Hello, it's me, I have the same coffee problems as your wife. A few things that really helped, used in increasing order of desperation:

1. Buying a temperature-adjustable kettle and making coffee at 185° or so instead of boiling. Bonus: I think the coffee tastes better anyway. I recently moved and couldn't take my fancy kettle with me, so now I pour cold water into the boiling kettle until I guesstimate I'm at 185. I guess this tip doesn't work if you're using a Mr. Coffee machine or whatever.

2. Giving the mug a really good blow as soon as the coffee is poured.

3. My wife bought me a few mugs that are much wider at the top than the bottom, meaning there's more exposed surface area and the coffee cools off quicker.

4. Adding an ice cube.

Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by thexa4 on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @06:29AM (#33893193)
Instead of ice cubes you can also use frozen coffee cubes, it prevents dillution.
Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by pianosaurus on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @07:58AM (#33893820)
Or rocks. I have a set of mineral cubes in my freezer. I don't need them for coffee, since I like it scolding, but they are handy for other drinks I don't want to dilute.
Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by spuz on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @04:32AM (#33892385)
I don't think it exists but it sounds like the best option for you would be a steel mug with a heated baseplate. The baseplate could detect the presence of a full mug with a force sensor and then start heating. When she makes her coffee she could place the mug on the baseplate and then keep it heated at her desired temperature. That way she could run around doing whatever and always have a warm coffee to sip on when she comes back to it.
Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by zejn on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:15AM (#33896110)
For the price of washing two mugs instead of one, you can also pour the coffee through air from one to another a couple of times. That brings the temperature down much quicker comparing to just leaving it sit a while.

Helps to have containers that have an edge that is easy to pour from. Less spilling.

Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by throwthroyaboat on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:34PM (#33899853)
Same issue with my spouse. Solved it by buying a fancy manual espresso machine, and me learning to steam the milk to the correct temperature by feel. For tea we have an adjustable temperature electric kettle.
Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by kilotaras on Thursday December 08, 2022 @04:23AM (#33905993)
I remember seeing cubes that have solid inside that has melting point around (good temperature to drink coffee).

You put them in a cup and it

1. Quickly cools coffee to that temperature (by increasing temperature and melting). 2. Keeps coffee at that temperature for some point (doesn't go lower until liquid inside is back solid).

I've gave it a cursory google and can't find a name.

Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by jaclaz on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @05:24AM (#33892742)
Maybe something like a magic mug:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_mug

could be made with ink/paint changes that show (very approximately) the temperature (I think the ones around have only on/off states).

Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by dotancohen on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @04:10AM (#33892264)
This was far more entertaining to read than you probably intended. I find your ideas intr.... yeah that.
Re:Caterpillar offers phone with built-in FLIR camera by alex_suzuki on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @05:56AM (#33892940)
Sounds like a good marriage!