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Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by audiofish on Monday December 05, 2022 @03:38PM (#33871561)
AM radio is a pretty poor standard considering how much power and bandwidth it uses, due much to the very limited modulation technology available in the 1920s.

DRM (no not that DRM--Digital Radio Mondiale) is a modern digital standard that promises much better spectral efficiency, power efficiency and range. See https://www.drm.org/. It is similar in concept to DAB, using an OFDM carrier, but with more robust error correction and equalisation, and lower bit rate codec to handle larger broadcast areas.

There is a hope that this could upgrade existing AM broadcast infrastructure, allowing rapid coverage of large areas without the expense of building out new towers.

The MW/HF bands are great for coverage because of the longer wavelength, relative to the VHF bands used for FM and DAB.

Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by lormayna on Monday December 05, 2022 @03:56PM (#33871798)
I am an huge fan of DRM, but the lack of receivers it's a good limitation for that.
Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by audiofish on Monday December 05, 2022 @04:29PM (#33872173)
That is true, although I know of one company close to production of a <10$ module for OEMs to integrate.
Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by lormayna on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @05:38AM (#33877851)
This will be fantastic. I am looking forward to it!
Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by datpiff on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @07:26AM (#33878606)
Haha me too
Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by hulitu on Monday December 05, 2022 @04:07PM (#33871941)
> and lower bit rate codec to handle larger broadcast areas

That's why DAB is crap. Because people are greedy and don't care about quality.

Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by audiofish on Monday December 05, 2022 @04:27PM (#33872151)
Agreed, but the alternative here is AM which has never been good quality. DAB was a big step down from FM quality because the choice of codec / bandwidth assigned to stations was pretty bad (and bandwidth == $$!)
Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by dirkf on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @08:38AM (#33879458)
Are you referring to the original DAB (using MP2) or the upgraded DAB+ standard (using HE-AACv2)? I think most, if not all, stations have switched to DAB+. I'm told the quality is better than FM and based on my experience it's certainly not worse as far as I can hear. Of course, since FM is analog it degrades linearly whereas DAB+ is digital: it either works or it doesn't. This might skew the perception of quality.
Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by audiofish on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @07:01PM (#33888882)
You're probably right. I was put off by early DAB deployments, and haven't tried with DAB+. I would be interested to try again with the new standard.
Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by cbm-vic-20 on Monday December 05, 2022 @04:39PM (#33872281)
Obviously you know this, but AM is absurdly easy to implement. A pencil, razor blade, some wire and an earphone is all it takes to make a crude receiver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxhole_radio

Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by kjs3 on Monday December 05, 2022 @06:46PM (#33873657)
Indeed. No way that replacing trivial to implement, ubiquitous communications technology with complicated, processing intensive, proprietary solutions could go wrong.
Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by blueflow on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @07:54AM (#33878881)
This sometimes happens on accident. I had circuits turning into AM radios when i touched them at specific screws or pads, with some random frequency hard-tuned in. At night, when the reception was better, you'd hear voices!
Re:The end of AM radio in your car? by freedomben on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @04:35PM (#33887396)
One of the first electronics kits everybody gets is a build-your-own AM radio. It's awesome cause it's easy enough for a beginner but also does something cool.