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Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by KingOfCoders on Monday December 05, 2022 @05:39AM (#33863805)
Hetzner customer for 20 (?) years.

Wish they would add managed databases to their cloud.

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by Hetzner_OL on Monday December 05, 2022 @05:57AM (#33863956)
Wow! Twenty years in this industry is a lifetime! Thanks so much for supporting us all these years! I will pass on a +1 for you to the dev team about the managed databases. --Katie
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by martin-adams on Monday December 05, 2022 @06:26AM (#33864163)
I absolutely love using Hetzner. Top of my wishlist is Managed Databases and Managed Kubernetes. This is the main of the reason why I'm using Digitalocean for production and Hetzner for more stateless use cases.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by Vespasian on Monday December 05, 2022 @06:56AM (#33864396)
Managed K8s would be my dream as well.

Am I you?

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by senko on Monday December 05, 2022 @06:21AM (#33864129)
+1 on managed DBs.

I currently have hybrid DigitalOcean / Hetzner setup to take advantge of load balancer and managed database at DO. If Hetzner provided some of those, I'd gladly switch.

I am not managing replicated postgresql myself ever again.

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by KingOfCoders on Monday December 05, 2022 @07:41AM (#33864836)
Yes, me too! (DO/H setup)
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by tarjei_huse on Monday December 05, 2022 @08:44AM (#33865517)
We considered DO but found that it was cheeper to hire a sysops firm (Linpro) to manage the DBs on Hetzner. This has the added bonus of humans that you can call if needed...
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by ancieque on Monday December 05, 2022 @06:14AM (#33864085)
make that another +1
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by juanse on Monday December 05, 2022 @06:02AM (#33864004)
I want also support this request.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by raphaelj on Monday December 05, 2022 @06:39AM (#33864273)
Scaleway has a similar pricing for VMs and dedicated, while providing additional managed services: https://www.scaleway.com

I've been there for 2y, pretty happy with them so far.

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by vedranm on Monday December 05, 2022 @07:11AM (#33864539)
Hetzner's performance is arguably better (Epyc 2nd gen on Hetzner vs Epyc 1st gen on Scaleway), but support for IPv6 is certainly much better: Scaleway doesn't offer PTR record and changes the IPv6 assigned to you when they relocate your VPS in the datacenter.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by elric on Monday December 05, 2022 @07:01AM (#33864438)
Nice to mee another 20 year customer. When I first discovered Hetzner, I couldn't believe their dedicated physical servers were cheaper than the colocation costs I was paying in a Belgian datacentre (without the hardware!). Over the years, I've had some hardware failures, which have always been resolved very quickly. Every time I interact with their support crew, I'm pleasantly surprised by how knowledgeable they are.

+1 for managed Cloud DBs. I'm surprised they don't exist already, given that they have managed DBs on their cheap web hosting platform. Shouldn't be a big step to make that available in Cloud.

Another request I have is virtual routers, so I only need 1 dedicated IP address and can NAT (or whatever) everything else. I get that I can do this with a small Cloud Instance and a private network, but those things are a pain to manage and I'm sure Hetzner could do a better job than myself :-)

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by huijzer on Monday December 05, 2022 @07:09AM (#33864515)
Since everyone is all of a sudden voting for managed databases, maybe there is a reason why Hetzner is so cheap and the reason is that they focus on the core and not on satisfying all kinds of feature requests?
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by oblio on Monday December 05, 2022 @07:25AM (#33864691)
It's not "all kinds of feature requests", if you think about it.

IT is basically 2 things, at its core:

* compute

* storage

Hetzner offers cheap compute, which is great because modern applications can have stateless web/app servers.

Now, the missing part is storage, and that's much harder and riskier since it's state, inherently. A server dies, you lose stuff if you misconfigure it.

So people want a fully managed IT solution.

It's simple and it's obvious conceptually, just hard.

And I guess Hetzner won't do it because it's hard thus expensive to do.

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by Aeolun on Monday December 05, 2022 @09:48AM (#33866318)
There already are full managed solutions. They’re 5x more expensive. It sounds to me like people expect the whole managed experience but 5x cheaper, which is never going to happen.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by hardwaresofton on Monday December 05, 2022 @07:38AM (#33864796)
I'm working on this -- it will be a while till I get on Postgres (I really hope that's the managed DB you want), but I'd love to get you on the postgres beta list.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by KingOfCoders on Monday December 05, 2022 @07:40AM (#33864828)
<3 Yes it's Postgres, email should be in the profile, would love to participate.
Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by hardwaresofton on Monday December 05, 2022 @07:49AM (#33864932)
Thank you! You've got mail ;)

Postgres (and later some exciting flavors like Neon) is actually the only database I plan to support, at least for right now -- MySQL and MongoDB are not even on the roadmap really.

I might make an exception for RethinkDB since I loved it so dearly.

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by fragile_frogs on Monday December 05, 2022 @08:59AM (#33865695)
> I might make an exception for RethinkDB since I loved it so dearly.

Don't get my hopes up... I haven't used RethinkDB in ages and have fully moved to Postgres though

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by hardwaresofton on Monday December 05, 2022 @10:52AM (#33867214)
You should definitely stick with Postgres -- you made the right call.

But also...

https://www.rethinkdb.cloud

Don't know who is behind it -- a company named MostlyTyped (not sure if this has old RDB engineers in it), but warms my heart that the repo is still seeing commits and usage.

Re:Hetzner continues its growth in the US with a new location by AtlasBarfed on Monday December 05, 2022 @06:20PM (#33873373)
What I want is the anti-AWS.

I want hetzner to concentrate on the core capabilities: servers, storage.

I want Hetzner to provide a PLATFORM to many different database-as-a-service on top of Hetzner. I want choice, and I don't want Hetzner doing what AWS does: stifling competition by releaseing their own flavor-of-open-source-database that puts the core projects sponsoring the open source code out of business.