Fire Them All; God Will Know His Own: Harvard's 7,024 Administrators

Re:Fire Them All; God Will Know His Own: Harvard's 7,024 Adm... by HDThoreaun on Friday December 02, 2022 @03:58PM (#33836805)

Ok but if you're just looking for fair and transparent why not take the 2000 fastest 40 yard dash times in world? Certainly a fair and transparent way for poor people to bootstrap themselves into top schools.

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Re:Fire Them All; God Will Know His Own: Harvard's 7,024 Adm... by tester756 on Friday December 02, 2022 @04:01PM (#33836846)

Because this is educational institution

So I'm using fair and transparent metrics proxying for learning capabilities, knowledge (in topics related to degrees) , etc, etc?

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Re:Fire Them All; God Will Know His Own: Harvard's 7,024 Adm... by HDThoreaun on Friday December 02, 2022 @04:36PM (#33837257)

Ah so you see my point. Using fair and transparent metrics that don't measure the right thing isn't useful. Harvard isn't looking for learning capabilities, knowledge (in topics related to degrees). They're looking for people that will be successful and accrue money/power.

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Re:Fire Them All; God Will Know His Own: Harvard's 7,024 Adm... by tester756 on Friday December 02, 2022 @04:45PM (#33837364)

Hmm, but I've already said that

>I'm not saying Harvard needs to change.

>I've been arguing that standardized tests are best available method (at scale) because they're at least fair and transparent.

The discussion started in this context - I replied to this.

>The problem is that standardized tests are more a measurement of access to resources and parental support than raw knowledge or future success. It does feel nice to say that everyone is equal, but not everyone has an equal chance.

I'm speaking more broadly - about the whole edu. sys.

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