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Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by idiotsecant on Friday December 02, 2022 @12:02PM (#33833178)
Same. I routinely pose the following question to chatbots to see how well they are able to parse strange sentence structure and understand abstract properties.

>Please describe the similarities and differences of the following two items: A beach ball and a howitzer cannon.

What follows is the response from ChatGPT. For just about the first time I legitimately feel like this beats the turing test.

>A beach ball and a howitzer cannon are two very different objects, and they have very few similarities. A beach ball is a small, inflatable ball that is typically used for recreational purposes, such as playing on the beach or in a pool. A howitzer cannon, on the other hand, is a large, heavy artillery weapon that is used to fire shells over long distances.

>One of the main differences between a beach ball and a howitzer cannon is their size and weight. A beach ball is small and lightweight, while a howitzer cannon is large and extremely heavy. Another difference is their intended use. A beach ball is designed for play and entertainment, while a howitzer cannon is designed for warfare and destruction.

>One possible similarity between the two objects is that they both can be inflated, although this is done for very different reasons. A beach ball is inflated with air to make it bouncy and fun to play with, while a howitzer cannon is typically loaded with gunpowder and other explosives, which are ignited to launch a shell. However, even this similarity is quite tenuous, as the methods of inflation and the materials used are vastly different for the two objects.

Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by gptadmirer on Friday December 02, 2022 @12:04PM (#33833227)
Crazy, truly crazy.
Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by dTal on Friday December 02, 2022 @01:39PM (#33834777)
This strikes me as a very intriguing glimpse into its "mind". No human would describe loading a howitzer with gunpowder as "inflating" - the howitzer does not increase in volume. However it's clearly grasped that inflating involves putting something into something else. I wonder how it would respond if you asked it to define the word?
Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by mrybczyn on Friday December 02, 2022 @01:59PM (#33835091)
Quora: Does a gun barrel expand due to gas pressure? Allen Davis Yes, but it’s microscopic and very, very, very brief. On the order or nanoseconds. It’s this expansion that has allowed for technology to be developed in which chamber pressures can be accurately measured by use of piezo electric sensors.

ChatGPT is not wrong!

Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by systems_glitch on Friday December 02, 2022 @02:01PM (#33835118)
Barrel pressures undoubtedly "inflate" it, exceeding safe pressures results in permanent deformation rather than elastic return to original dimensions. I suspect that sort of nuance is the connection.
Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by TrevorJ on Friday December 02, 2022 @02:25PM (#33835509)
While it seems obvious to humans that gunpowder in a gun barrel creating expanding gasses is not the same thing as inflating something...on closer inspection they really are only subtly different. If we consider the bullet to be part of the system then the expanding gasses do actually increase the exterior volume of the gun as it travels up the barrel.

This is the sort of interesting leap that makes AI super interesting to me. I could see it being very useful in helping humans move the state of the art forward in areas where human lexical taxonomy has caused us to make some assumptions which blind us to other potential solutions.

Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by tom_ on Friday December 02, 2022 @03:09PM (#33836164)
Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by CobrastanJorji on Friday December 02, 2022 @02:38PM (#33835689)
> Me: Does a cannon inflate when it fires?

> ChatGPT: No, a cannon does not inflate when it fires. Inflate means to fill something with air or gas, whereas a cannon uses gunpowder to create an explosion that propels a projectile out of the barrel. The explosion in a cannon is a rapid release of gas, which can cause the barrel of the cannon to expand slightly, but it does not inflate in the sense of being filled with air or gas.

ChatGPT produces really great sounding answers, but consistency is not a goal.

Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by dTal on Friday December 02, 2022 @04:37PM (#33837269)
I would not expect dictionary-level consistency from it. Even humans freely use words differently in different contexts, and it would be particularly unfair to hold it against ChatGPT for getting creative when asked to find the similarities between two radically different objects.

If anything, this answer is extraordinarily impressive because, although it decided to be a stickler for definitions this time, it reaffirms the metaphor that it invented last time. In other words, it seems reasonable to conclude that in some sense it "knows" that the barrel of the cannon expands slightly (a fact it implied but neglected to mention last time), and can use this to make inferences.

Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by ilaksh on Friday December 02, 2022 @04:44PM (#33837353)
https://character.ai also beats the Turing Test on some level I think.
Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by mk_stjames on Friday December 02, 2022 @05:10PM (#33837635)
It is so good, so close, and yet it misses on the one point where I think most humans would find the only real similarity: A cannon (not a Howitzer, but oldschool cannon, which most people will imagine I think) fires cannon balls, which are spheres, and a beach ball is a spherical shape. Now, a "Howitzer" specifically fires shells of artillery that aren't spherical, sure, but the weapon is a direct descendant of the classic cannon firing round cannon balls and it is right there in the name. I'd imagine if asked to find some similarity, many humans would latch onto the cannon > cannon ball > beach ball train. If it had picked up on that I'd really be speechless. And maybe it would have if the seed/temperature was slightly different.
Re:People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel co... by throwaway2037 on Saturday December 03, 2022 @03:30AM (#33841801)
Incredible. As an educated adult, I cannot distinguish that answer from one that a native speaker would write. The style feels very much like a English comprehension exam you take before university. The written structure is so clean. How long until people are using models like this to cheat on university entrance exams for written comprehension? Very soon.