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Re:Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conve... by janoc on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @02:30PM (#33806275)
How is that different from Tesla essentially using Tesla car owners as unpaid betatesters for their autonomous driving (and other) software while disclaiming all responsibility when anything happens?

This "learn by doing" is going to end up well ... not. Especially when trying to learn by repeating mistakes with completely foreseable consequences, like that blue "verified" badge being available for anyone who pays without any verification.

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Re:Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conve... by w0m on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @03:11PM (#33806937)
> using Tesla car owners as unpaid betatesters

Almost right.

Charging Tesla owners to beta test their autonomous driving software.

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Re:Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conve... by dexterdog on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @04:22PM (#33807899)
Almost fully right. Charging and risking Tesla subscribers to beta test their autonomous driving software.
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Re:Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conve... by lancesells on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @04:35PM (#33808092)
So close. Charging and risking Tesla subscribers along with everyone else on the road to beta test their autonomous driving software.
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Re:Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conve... by LanceJones on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @05:36PM (#33808934)
I'm one of those people. Running FSD Beta in my Model S Plaid in BC. And your negative connotation doesn't apply to me or many/most of the other beta testers with whom I'm regularly communicating.
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Re:Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conve... by yreg on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @05:40PM (#33808997)
It's curious how many people are unhappy that someone choses to pay for an early-access product that's in beta.
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Re:Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conve... by trs8080 on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @06:23PM (#33809518)
Most people are probably just amused. I'm more on the unhappy side because a vehicle can actually kill people when it crashes and Musk seems like more of a "move fast and break things" personality, which is not a great combination for safety.
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Re:Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conve... by themacguffinman on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:07PM (#33810071)
Maybe because it's unsafe and misleading? The US Department of Justice has already started a criminal investigation [1]:

> Oct 25 - Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) is under criminal investigation in the United States over claims that the company's electric vehicles can drive themselves, three people familiar with the matter said.

> The U.S. Department of Justice launched the previously undisclosed probe last year following more than a dozen crashes, some of them fatal, involving Tesla’s driver assistance system Autopilot, which was activated during the accidents, the people said.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/legal/exclusive-tesla-faces-us-crimi...

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Re:Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conve... by bmitc on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:38PM (#33811092)
I'm unhappy about it because I have to share the road with Tesla's cars, and I'm also tired of people buying wholesale into hype. I personally stay away from Tesla's on the road for fear that they have the "self-driving" software engaged.
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Re:Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conve... by blitzar on Thursday December 01, 2022 @04:29AM (#33814138)
He promised I would be able to earn income on my car driving around town all on its own while I was asleep at home by the end of 2016. Instead I have to pay him to have a computer drive full throttle into stationary objects - something that I am more than capable of doing on my own.
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