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Re:Web Archive appears to be down by iLoveOncall on Sunday November 27, 2022 @04:34AM (#33761672)
I recently wondered, and I assume the answer is on the website that is currently down, about what guarantees that Web Archive will survive longer than your standard website?

What makes it an archive in terms of longevity? Is it backed by governments or NGOs? What if the funding stops? Etc.

Re:Web Archive appears to be down by fancybouncy on Sunday November 27, 2022 @04:45AM (#33761706)
I've been thinking about this too. It should be backed by a p2p network to be resilient. But probably there are mirrors, they are simply not advertised for security? (plenty of copyright infringement on archive.org)
Re:Web Archive appears to be down by Springtime on Sunday November 27, 2022 @05:56AM (#33762062)
Their infrastructure is explained in this talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neBeDgICOeA
Re:Web Archive appears to be down by jonah-archive on Sunday November 27, 2022 @11:35AM (#33764188)
Canonical link is at https://archive.org/details/jonah-edwards-presentation -- I'm also always happy to answer any questions folks might have about it if I see them.
Re:Web Archive appears to be down by TylerE on Sunday November 27, 2022 @04:57AM (#33761770)
I’m not overly hopeful. I suspect the ‘COVID’ library ends up getting…expensive, at best.
Re:Web Archive appears to be down by david_p on Sunday November 27, 2022 @04:58AM (#33761773)
I used to work in Web preservation and we often discussed/collaborated with internet archive.

I was working in a French government-funded Web preservation project.

Many countries have such government-led projects (france, norway, iceland, italy, usa - via the library of congress, slovenia). For a full list of who does that, see https://netpreserve.org/

Short answer: partial replication of the data at other institutions + overlap of the archive at other institutions

Many projects like internet archive exist, they are not necessarily publicly accessible via the internet (in France the archive can be consulted from public libraries via dedicated computers).

If you are interested in the topic, also take a look at the LOCKSS project from Stanford: https://www.lockss.org/

Re:Web Archive appears to be down by mdmglr on Sunday November 27, 2022 @05:42AM (#33761976)
How does replication in the EU work with right to be forgotten laws?
Re:Web Archive appears to be down by TheNorthman on Sunday November 27, 2022 @05:54AM (#33762052)
There are public interest exceptions to European right-to-be-forgotten laws.

Cases are handled on an individual basis. Sometimes those exceptions apply, sometimes they needs of the individual supercedes the public interests.

Re:Web Archive appears to be down by horseAMcharlie on Sunday November 27, 2022 @06:35AM (#33762238)
Is there an existing service where I can query an URL and get a list of preservation projects that have successfully archived that URL?
Re:Web Archive appears to be down by rz2k on Sunday November 27, 2022 @04:41PM (#33767281)
There are a few browser add-ons that will list about a dozen archives for every page you visit. However, that doesn't include non-public services like the one mentioned above.
Re:Web Archive appears to be down by david_p on Thursday December 01, 2022 @11:47AM (#33818865)
You are looking for Memento.

- http://timetravel.mementoweb.org/ (search seems to be down)

- https://www.webarchive.org.uk/mementos/search (search not responsive for me)

- https://mementoweb.github.io/SiteStory/redirector.html (protocol and tools)

Re:Web Archive appears to be down by heckerhut on Sunday November 27, 2022 @05:51AM (#33762028)
That’s why they’re collaborating with IPFS, a p2p content addressed file system
Re:Web Archive appears to be down by KoftaBob on Sunday November 27, 2022 @06:13AM (#33762147)
I haven't been able to figure out how to access the IPFS versions of the archive. They technically have a version of their site hosted through IPFS (https://www-dweb-cors.dev.archive.org/web), but when searching for a specific url like nytimes.com, it just redirects to the standard archive.org url.