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Re:The Pentagon fails its fifth audit in a row by imwillofficial on Sunday November 27, 2022 @01:17AM (#33760843)
You’re making a lot of interesting assumptions based on nothing I can see.

It would be fascinating to hear more about where you get these ideas from.

Re:The Pentagon fails its fifth audit in a row by s5300 on Sunday November 27, 2022 @01:25AM (#33760876)
Probably from growing up in one of said areas that obviously majorly benefit.

What they’re saying is very much true, I’m curious of your upbringing & knowledge of the topic if you really think they’re wrong

Re:The Pentagon fails its fifth audit in a row by imwillofficial on Monday November 28, 2022 @12:39AM (#33770173)
You couldn’t be further off base.
Re:The Pentagon fails its fifth audit in a row by woodruffw on Sunday November 27, 2022 @01:44AM (#33760963)
I'm happy to try and walk through my assumptions (although maybe not at this very moment, since it's late here). If you list out the ones that you think I'm making, I'll try my best to substantiate them.
Re:The Pentagon fails its fifth audit in a row by reissbaker on Sunday November 27, 2022 @05:21AM (#33761866)
Your assumption is that " the DoD is really just a $800B jobs program," because people are too embarrassed to accept welfare. I'm similarly interested to see evidence backing that up. Another specific claim, for example:

We can't make it obvious that we want to build a large, well-educated, and financially stable middle class by dumping money onto it, so we build it up by dumping money into the DoD instead

FWIW, the DoD employs 1.3MM active duty service members, 750k civilians, and 800k National Guard and Reserve service members [1]. That's about 3MM people, generously rounding up. If you consider the surrounding defense industry, that's about another 800k jobs [3], so let's super-generously round up to 4MM. Considering that there are 207MM working age people in the U.S. [2], I'd be surprised if there was broad support for the DoD primarily on the basis of the number of jobs it provides or as a welfare alternative. That's $800k a year per job created! Seems fairly inefficient as a job creation scheme given the median salary in the U.S. is about $54k a year [4].

And compared to the 4MM jobs in defense, in 2019 roughly 59MM Americans were the recipients of some sort of welfare program [5].

1: https://trumpadministration.archives.performance.gov/defense...

2: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LFWA64TTUSM647S

3: https://www.clearedconnections.com/security-clearance-news/s...

4: https://www.thebalancemoney.com/average-salary-information-f....

5: https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/99674/...

Re:The Pentagon fails its fifth audit in a row by Throw10987 on Sunday November 27, 2022 @05:43AM (#33761982)
Veterans Affairs is also a big Chunk of change that also goes on in perpetuity. 412k employees and 10+ million on benefits

Depending on how you count, defense industry could be 3.5 mil employees.

https://siteselection.com/issues/2012/sep/sas-military-econo....

Re:The Pentagon fails its fifth audit in a row by Throw10987 on Sunday November 27, 2022 @03:01AM (#33761294)
War is a racket - Smedley Butler Major General US Marine Corps https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket#:~:text=War%....
Re:The Pentagon fails its fifth audit in a row by imwillofficial on Sunday November 27, 2022 @09:47AM (#33763257)
Awesome quote, but war being a money making scheme does not make it a jobs program.
Re:The Pentagon fails its fifth audit in a row by thehappypm on Sunday November 27, 2022 @07:57AM (#33762667)
Reddit oozes with ideas like this