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Re:Germany Forces a Microsoft 365 Ban Due to Privacy Concerns by darkwater on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:11AM (#33742049)
In Spain they use Zoom for the same thing.

It's really astonishing how governments, especially the European ones, don't cluster on open-source and self-hosted resources for all of these things. To be honest, I know the "easy answer" to this: "IT consulting firms, incompetence, bureaucracy and corruption", but even with that, it should be possible to do it with open system and not just rely on some other countries even for the software.

Re:Germany Forces a Microsoft 365 Ban Due to Privacy Concerns by davidodio on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:30AM (#33742180)
Indeed, maddening, especially as the wonderful https://mediasoup.org/ is developed here. Europe will never have great tech companies when the answer seems to be throwing €€€ away instead of investing locally
Re:Germany Forces a Microsoft 365 Ban Due to Privacy Concerns by mordae on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:17AM (#33742089)
Neoliberalism is super entrenched here. It is almost impossible to create a state/county/municipal IT department that would actually have enough sysadmins. All such departments rely almost entirely on external suppliers. One way this happens are salary controls. It is impossible to hire someone and give him the market rate, but it is trivial to tender the work associated with such position to a random external company for thrice the market wage.

This effectively means that the critical advantage of FLOSS - just install it and see if it works for the users - is effectively killed by the red tape. Only software that someone actively sells can ever make it through.

EDIT:

And to be clear, this is not about customer support and whatnot. Number one complaint from most of the public servants who contract out IT services have been that the suppliers are not helping them, are overcharging them and in some instances they even threaten and withhold documentation and read access to their software databases.

Re:Germany Forces a Microsoft 365 Ban Due to Privacy Concerns by crubier on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:21AM (#33742111)
> Only software that someone actively sells can ever make it through.

Only software that someone actively supports*

Re:Germany Forces a Microsoft 365 Ban Due to Privacy Concerns by hectormalot on Friday November 25, 2022 @08:32AM (#33742192)
No I think it is the sales that counts. That 200k salesperson will of course make PowerPoint decks showing all the support options. But, the main barrier to take is convincing 10+ people with different incentives to all sign off on your product, and that is what enterprise sales gets done.
Re:Germany Forces a Microsoft 365 Ban Due to Privacy Concerns by oneoff786 on Friday November 25, 2022 @09:39AM (#33742758)
If you show up with a PowerPoint deck to use as evidence for your competitor to Microsoft Office you’re off to a bad start
Re:Germany Forces a Microsoft 365 Ban Due to Privacy Concerns by Anthony-G on Friday November 25, 2022 @09:45AM (#33742810)
Can concur. A software project could be feasibly implemented in-house but in-house technological teams are both under-staffed (lots of "teams" of just one or two people) and the staff themselves have much lower salaries compared to a similar role in the private sector. As a result, there's no incentive for technologically competent staff to stick around and provide support for software/systems that they implement.

On the other hand, there are very large budgets available for purchasing software with support contracts and even more so for IT consultancy services. In practice, this neo-liberal push to outsource rather than develop in-house capabilities results in all sorts of inefficiencies and deficiencies in the ability of public servants to provide a quality public service.

Re:Germany Forces a Microsoft 365 Ban Due to Privacy Concerns by wil421 on Friday November 25, 2022 @09:18AM (#33742584)
I worked with European firms for over 5 years, from the company who makes lenses for ASML machines, European telcos, to well known German shoe companies and groceries stores, and luxury French brand conglomerates. They all had slightly less than 0 IT knowledge and outsourced almost all IT work to contracting companies.

I’ve seen large contracting firms get the boot for pulling the let’s withhold docs to get another large change order for producing said doc. It’s BS games.

Re:Germany Forces a Microsoft 365 Ban Due to Privacy Concerns by Spooky23 on Friday November 25, 2022 @09:09AM (#33742510)
Huh? Rolling some bespoke conferencing solution instead of just integrating an existing commercial solution is the definition of waste.

Navel gazing at open source isn’t a great use of the limited resources of the taxpayer. There’s 100 other priorities to expend resources on, many of which have a meaningful open source component.