Yeah, naive indeed - no way to sugarcoat this. Well, at least you're not lying to yourself and others about it now, that's the only way to learn something from it. IMHO it'd be nice if you donated some of your earnings to a human rights focused NGO operating in the area.

That’s quite condescending.

I don't think so. I recognized the person admitted it to themselves and even others and learned from their mistakes. What they did was bad, there's no going around that. Now they should try to make it right - donating money to people trying to fix the situation is a good way to do that.

>Now they should try to make it right - donating money to people trying to fix the situation is a good way to do that.

You're assuming that this individual hasn't already done something to atone (which goes against HN's rule to assume best intentions). That, coupled with a tone that comes off as though you know better than this person, basically round out the definition of "condescending".

I am not assuming anything. I made a suggestion, nothing else. They're free to do nothing if they feel like they already did enough. You're assuming I'm assuming <...>, which goes against the HN rule to assume best intentions.

condescending: having or showing an attitude of patronizing superiority.

I don't see anything patronizing or showing superiority in what I wrote. I am saying this as a peer, not as a superior.

It's kinda weird to expect people not to make mistakes such as this if nobody tells them it's wrong. And it's normal for people to tell other people they do bad stuff if they do.

>I don't see anything patronizing or showing superiority in what I wrote. I am saying this as a peer, not as a superior.

And you have four different peers who have responded to you suggesting that you are being condescending. Take a step back and ask why - intention and tone are two different things, and if you get the latter wrong then we will misunderstand the former.

>It's kinda weird to expect people not to make mistakes such as this if nobody tells them it's wrong. And it's normal for people to tell other people they do bad stuff if they do.

Just let 'em be. You're not a hero. They admitted what they did, and why they know it's wrong. You're not doing anything other than going, "Yep, you sure did fuck up."

> Take a step back and ask why - intention and tone are two different things, and if you get the latter wrong then we will misunderstand the former.

Good point, OK.

So you’re assuming that you know better than them what they’ve done wrong, that you have to tell them, and how they should make up for it. That’s how your tone is coming across.

> you know better than them what they’ve done wrong

Hardly, since I just agreed with what they said. I suggested what IMHO is a good way to make up for it. Nothing else.

> that you have to tell them

Sure, I have to. I think everyone should say something in cases like this.

Donating money rarely fixes problems. What it does is create organizations that draw their lifeblood from the continued existence of the problem, and continued donations of money.

If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all.

Was I supposed to say "great job" to this? Lol.

'not saying anything at all' wasn't a rhetorical suggestion

Nah, I'm really not the kind of person that says nothing to this.

Pretty sad that you feel the need to rub salt into a wound.

Nah I don't think that's what I did. As another commenter said maybe that's how it came out (sorry), but not the intention.

Still seems unnecessarily condescending, but I've been guilty of that often enough that I am not going to hold that against you.

> IMHO it'd be nice if you donated some of your earnings to a human rights focused NGO operating in the area.

Is there somehow a difference in impact depending on who does this? Maybe if you chipped in, the Qatar slave workers would be even better off. Or is this just about guilt-tripping strangers for their past? :-)

My free funds are currently 100% dedicated to helping Ukraine and will be until Russia falls back to 1991 borders.

Sounds like you’ll never have free funds again.

Someone shares an insightful story that others can learn from and your first thought is to shame them, and then without knowing the first thing about them or what else they've done with their life, you tell them the best way to atone for their sins?

This thread is such a great opportunity for learning and curiosity and yet you choose to see it only as an opportunity for moral grandstanding, possibly scaring away other people with interesting stories to tell. Why are you on this website?