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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by polartx on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:57PM (#33662937)
What’s the running tally on $$$ sent to Ukraine before this consideration?
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by bwb on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:29PM (#33663392)
What is the cost of being able to not repeat ww2 by giving into a dictator?

What is the cost of defending democracy as an ideal form of government to ensure a better world for future generations?

Money and resources is a small cost versus what it could be.

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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by abracadaniel on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:32PM (#33663461)
The ROI on stopping Russian expansion and crippling their military has got to be insane.
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by losteric on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:39PM (#33663570)
Especially considering the human cost of blood sweat and tears is "externalized"
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by bwb on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:38PM (#33663551)
Totally! The entire region is going to shuft as this is realized.
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by nadieyninguno1 on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:25PM (#33664361)
So - were helping knock out China’s last regional threat and renewing an enemy that could have been turned into an ally two decades ago?

That seems like a terrible investment.

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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by karp773 on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:59PM (#33666777)
That's a problem but it's Russia's problem, not ours. For the US and Europe, every month of the campaign in Ukraine, every month of utilizing Russian equipment and personnel, buys at least a year of peace for the whole Europe. At the end of this war Russia will be at bay for another 50-100 years. That's awesome!
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by PM_me_your_math on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:15PM (#33663165)
Ukraine gets more for government salaries than the US gets for infrastructure.
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by bwb on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:29PM (#33663406)
Source?
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by PM_me_your_math on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:24PM (#33664351)
Why should I have to prepare you for a discussion that you've already jumped into unprepared? The data is out there.
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by bwb on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:38PM (#33664541)
Lol you throw out a bold claim, where is the data?
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by throwaway102233 on Friday November 18, 2022 @08:19PM (#33665596)
it's public knowledge that the US is financing Ukraine's government for it's day to day. Numerous news articles from outfits like Reuters, A&P. Even Zelensky publically asks for money to help cover the day to day (on top of everything else he asks for).
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by _kbh_ on Friday November 18, 2022 @08:53PM (#33665877)
This is still not a source do you have one or not?
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by hall0ween on Friday November 18, 2022 @09:09PM (#33665989)
I too would like to see a source. Making claims without backing them up with evidence is a poor way to defend said claim.
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by PM_me_your_math on Sunday November 20, 2022 @11:46AM (#33682535)
The sky is blue!

Source?

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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by throwaway102233 on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:41PM (#33698375)
you guys are truly pathetic

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/15/white-house-requests-37point...

'direct funding for the government' - paying for salaries comes under this.

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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by throwaway102233 on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @05:27AM (#33704195)
https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/jun-30...

https://ua.usembassy.gov/the-united-states-contributes-4-5-b...

here you go smoothbrains, probably could find more if I googled for another minute, but this is so benign that I've already wasted enough time.

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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by throwaway102233 on Monday November 21, 2022 @04:42PM (#33698387)
you guys are pathetic.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/15/white-house-requests-37point...

'direct funding for government' - what do you think that covers? salaries for one.

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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by bwb on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @03:08AM (#33703269)
That does not mean 100% and that could also mean military support. We want a source that clearly shows that snd you do not seem to have that.

Why use a throw away account? It looks very suspect here on HN.

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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by throwaway102233 on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @05:23AM (#33704173)
of course it means military support, you are trying to stop a government from collapsing, part of that is paying the bills (which include salaries). I don't understand why you are taking issue with that? - doesn't the US government (federal) "shutdown" when debt extensions can't be agreed upon?

https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/jun-30...

https://ua.usembassy.gov/the-united-states-contributes-4-5-b...

"continuing to pay the salaries of civil servants, healthcare workers and teachers"

You really need to step out of whatever echo chamber you live in.

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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by bwb on Tuesday November 22, 2022 @06:06AM (#33704455)
Ya I am not refuting we are not giving them money, what I want is proof of your orig statement...

I'm out, stop using a throwaway account. It makes you look very suspect.

And, stop being a douche and using words like echo chamber. Makes you look like just another insane person online. Just be a human and be kind.

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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by throwaway102233 on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @04:21AM (#33716921)
my original statement is 'its public knowledge that the US government is funding the Ukrainian government with its day to day expenses'. I think I've shown that. as for your douche comment, it's rather pathetic that when you get called out, you resort to calling me a douche and a 'crazy internet person'. The projection is strong I guess.
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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by melling on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:53PM (#33663854)
Weren't most of the weapons already bought by the US military? Think Ukraine got the older Javelins, for example.

The US military budget is huge. Real world battlefield testing of Javelins, for example, which seem to not be as effective as thought.

The Pentagon is likely spending a lot of time analyzing the war.

The Reagan Era Star Wars program cost a couple hundred billion for a system that didn’t work.

http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/reagans-star-wars-pro...

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Re:White House announces $13B to modernize the US power grid by stjohnswarts on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:04PM (#33664044)
It doesn't matter, that's orthogonal to this spending, completely unrelated.
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