Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ...
by Xylakant on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:13PM
(#33660386)
No sane infrastructure team will answer „easily“ to that question. Things break, all of the time. And infra will need developer input to figure out some of the breakage, let alone fix it. And that‘s not even considering deliberate attacks, fixes for critical security/stability issues etc.
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Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ...
by erulabs on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:19PM
(#33660529)
I disagree strongly, and I currently run an infrastructure team. Things break because of changes to the system. Assuming the entire infrastructure team wasn't fired, it should be dramatically easier to keep the service online assuming all development has stopped.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ...
by falcolas on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:34PM
(#33660765)
That depends entirely on the status of the stack when the code freeze happened.
If it was unstable, then I'd want several bottles of whisky on hand, because I'd have to work around the stinky pile of dung I'd been left with.
Given reports of debug and dev builds in production just before everything was frozen, I'd probably want to start stocking up on whisky.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ...
by albertopv on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:48PM
(#33660988)
Changes to a system can come in many ways, e.g. we had a noticeable increase in our db size because of a new customer data, what was ok. before wasn't after. Of course it's different for twitter.
And what about security? Update to libraries, dependencies...?
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ...
by Xylakant on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:33PM
(#33661653)
Anyone remember the leap second?
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ...
by cloverich on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:04PM
(#33662166)
Of course but this is also twitter, not a startup in its infancy. I'm not saying new stuff won't happen (etc), but they have a very mature infra org.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ...
by Kye on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:21PM
(#33665040)
Do they? It's hard to tell where these cuts are happening and how much thought is going into them.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ...
by albertopv on Saturday November 19, 2022 @03:08AM
(#33668139)
And almost no one left to manage it.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ...
by Raz2 on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:31PM
(#33660727)
Not during the code freeze. Using the same container image that worked before for a while doesn’t need dev input.
Re:If you (still) work at Twitter and you can code, head to ...
by Xylakant on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:42PM
(#33660897)
I‘ve had stuff break because of required kernel updates, software that needed to be patched, hardware breaking and no exact substitute being available, database sizes crossing critical thresholds, … - it‘s definitely less risky to run something that is well understood and no longer getting substantial amounts of updates, but every complex system has known and unknown deficiencies that are just a butterfly’s wingbeat away from being triggered. As long as you‘re on the happy path, everything will look fine. But if something pushes slightly and moves you to the unhappy path, you can find yourself very quickly in a position where you need someone with a deep understanding of some obscure component of the system that is misbehaving - and that someone is unlikely to be the infrastructure team.