(and obviously if you're a US national in China you'll pay Chinese and US taxes, because of the weird extraterritorial taxation of the US)

Downloading and using TikTok is a personal choice and you’ve allowed it by doing so as an individual. I don’t think we should ban individual apps from other countries. If we want that, we need some larger more thoughtful policy. But to do so effectively, we essentially need to put up a firewall and ban the sharing of domestically collected data as well (amongst other things, like enforcing these bans.)

PSY-ops as mentioned sounds negative but I’d argue it’s what TikTok and social media consumers enjoy the most.

Not if it interferes with security of the country.

The same personal choice argument is what folks use to justify other choices that are bad (refusing well test vaccines, not paying taxes, etc.)

Banning one app at a time is not the way.

> Banning one app at a time is not the way.

True, let us ban *all* apps from countries that (1) ban US apps and (2) seek to influence US citizens.

My view is the "app" is just a client for information sharing. It would be like putting up a firewall or banning traffic from certain TLD's. Seems ironic that the solution is to mimic the problem.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/30/chinese-communist-party...

Back to topic:

Applying critical thinking, you can be patriotic and a critical thinker.