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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by kumarvvr on Thursday November 17, 2022 @10:09PM (#33649516)

Wow. There was a tweet recently that the engineers of the core critical systems have left. Twitter is just basically coasting around.

What a sudden turn of events and destruction of this magnitude.

Personally, I believe that the crash and burn of Twitter and the rise of a better SM in its place has very low probability, but one can hope.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by threeseed on Thursday November 17, 2022 @10:38PM (#33649833)

There's reports the NOC and SREs have all left as well.

Surely an outage is right around the corner.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by klooney on Thursday November 17, 2022 @11:40PM (#33650413)

The first deployment from a newly hired SRE with no old heads to explain all the undocumented sharp edges.

Oh boy.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by mrguyorama on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:11PM (#33657883)

Even better, how the fuck do you triage a system you've never touched before, that most likely is overengineered to hell and back, while the guys responsible for getting you splunk creds are still trying to find out who can give them THEIR creds to get in themselves.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by klooney on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:25PM (#33663316)

I feel like it might be fun, honestly. I love a good murder mystery. I wonder if they'll pay Netflix money when things start falling down.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by Dudelander on Thursday November 17, 2022 @11:51PM (#33650504)

World Cup starts on the 20th. We'll see what happens then.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by threeseed on Thursday November 17, 2022 @11:58PM (#33650552)

Don't even need to wait until then. Apparently the entire payroll team has quit.

Surely more resignations are coming.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by ilyt on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:27AM (#33653165)

Well, if your systems are managed well they shouldn't just fall apart in a week without ops, but Murphy's a bitch

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by raspberry1337 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @03:02PM (#33684682)

>Surely an outage is right around the corner.

Hahahahahaha

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by halfmatthalfcat on Thursday November 17, 2022 @10:25PM (#33649688)

I remember getting into Sangria (Scala's GraphQL implementation) for the first time a couple years ago and seeing Twitter devs helping contribute to the lib. Was excited to see Twitter push that envelope. Now sad to see it all go away.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by bydlocoder on Thursday November 17, 2022 @11:19PM (#33650232)

Twitter is one the few Scala shops around, would be sad to lose it.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by threeseed on Thursday November 17, 2022 @11:21PM (#33650251)

The Scala community is so small that I know the names of almost all of the top engineers many of whom worked at Twitter.

The idea that they are just going to find dozens of them is hilariously insane.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by bydlocoder on Thursday November 17, 2022 @11:35PM (#33650368)

They should hire @jdegoes to save Twitter from the heresy of their Java++ ways.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by halfmatthalfcat on Thursday November 17, 2022 @11:40PM (#33650411)

Imagine him and Elon in a room. Their combined egos would create a singularity and we'd all die.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by TheFattestNinja on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:04AM (#33652634)

Shameless plug but Morgan Stanley FID tech does some pretty unique and advanced work on Scala (Optimus).

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by ineedasername on Thursday November 17, 2022 @11:02PM (#33650088)

>Hopefully Twitter will continue to function.

When I first heard about twitter I thought 1) that’s a dumb idea and 2) it won’t last long.

I was of course very wrong about #2 but feel increasingly right about #1 the more time goes by and the more (IMO) it provides net harm to society and social discourse.

So I’m sympathetic to the employees stuck there but hoping my timeline for #2 was simply way off and it finally goes away.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by voakbasda on Friday November 18, 2022 @10:45AM (#33656382)

Nature abhors a vacuum. Something will take its place, and I personally would bet that it will suck even worse.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by memish on Friday November 18, 2022 @01:38AM (#33651152)

FTX had like 20 employees, how many could Twitter possibly need?

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by Aaron2222 on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:05AM (#33651337)

It definitely feels like internal sabotage at the moment...

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by yrgulation on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:27AM (#33651472)

How is abandoning a mad boss sabotage? Those people are my new heroes. They clearly send a message to anyone in the industry trying to emulate musk, that if you mess around you find out.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by janalsncm on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:30AM (#33651492)

I read it as Musk sabotaging it himself.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by Aaron2222 on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:23AM (#33652753)

That would be how I meant it.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by pfarrell on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:42AM (#33653283)

If that’s what you meant, then I think a clearer wording would have been “self-sabotage”. The wording “internal sabotage” implies a coordinated effort against Musk by people inside Twitter.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by vkou on Friday November 18, 2022 @02:52AM (#33651665)

By whom, Musk?

Because while particular actions he's taken in the past few weeks may be justifiable in certain contexts, all of them taken together can only be interpreted as an attempt to set 44 billion dollars on fire.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by Aaron2222 on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:27AM (#33652778)

Yeah, I meant internal sabotage by Musk.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by rsynnott on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:33AM (#33651933)

Weird new CEO fires half the company, then demands a _loyalty pledge_, like a common Henry VIII. Sensibly, everyone quits. I mean, the only saboteur there is the leadership.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by ShredKazoo on Friday November 18, 2022 @03:37AM (#33651955)

I think it's about politics. Lots of Twitter employees are left-wing, and they hate Elon. They were probably creating trouble for him. The loyalty pledge is the typical Elon approach of taking sudden and drastic action in response to a problem.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by dfghbbjiiugb on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:25AM (#33652313)

Why would you assume it's about politics instead of the whole "shitty asshole boss who has open contempt for you and your coworkers, who is promising to massively overwork you, who might fire you any moment and has already fired half your peers"? I think you'd have to be completely insane to want to work there right now.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by ilyt on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:31AM (#33653188)

Well, there was twitter drama that preceded elon's buying twitter, and there was clearly a lot of employees pushing their politics using it. Hell, we got recent thread about how Japanese Twitter changed the moment the "moderation" got kicked out.

But yeah, asshole boss gonna be #1 cause here with literally anything else being barely related.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by smcl on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:37AM (#33652418)

You're putting a lot of stock into this idea that the root cause is some left-leaning employees. I don't buy it whatsoever. But even if we assumed it true (it's not), if you bought a company where the employees hate you and you immediately start antagonising them doesn't that indicate that you were the problem?

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by watwut on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:53AM (#33652552)

Something being typical for Elon does not make it intelligent move and does not make it not destructive.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by ShredKazoo on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:06AM (#33652648)

I didn't say otherwise :-)

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by raspberry1337 on Sunday November 20, 2022 @03:02PM (#33684685)

Weird how twitter is running just fine huh

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by quenix on Sunday November 20, 2022 @04:44PM (#33685735)

I think any reasonably well engineered system of this scale should run fine for a few weeks without ops, barring any weird Murphy's Law madness. Staying up for two days is not much of an achievement. Perhaps the real test is still ongoing.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by Aaron2222 on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:24AM (#33652761)

It appears I wasn't paritually clear. I meant Elon Musk is the one commiting internal sabotage.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by thereare5lights on Friday November 18, 2022 @12:48PM (#33658622)

So is this ignorance or malice?

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by westhom on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:37AM (#33652867)

It makes me wonder how much “infrastructure runway” a company like Twitter has. If every engineer resigns, how long will it take before the infrastructure stops working autonomously… server/DB hard drives fill up or crash, PSUs die, high maintenance processes grind to a haunt, network capacity stops scaling, etc.

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by rwmj on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:54AM (#33652960)

I think we're going to find out in the next few days, but if you believe this graph the signs are not encouraging (NB: this appears to be self-reported outages so I'm not sure that it is trustworthy):

https://downdetector.co.uk/status/twitter/

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by thrwyoilarticle on Friday November 18, 2022 @07:03AM (#33653443)

I thought this graph is just a visitor counter for the page?

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by absrd on Friday November 18, 2022 @04:38PM (#33662660)

the reports are up > 20x from baseline, twitter traffic is nowhere close to that multiple

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Re:Twitter alerted employees all office buildings closed and... by ryanSrich on Friday November 18, 2022 @06:22AM (#33653125)

My guess is a few weeks if that. However, the World Cup is starting this weekend, and Twitter will see heavy traffic spikes. I assume in the chaos that has been the last month they’ve failed to properly account for this. Maybe I’m wrong, but if Twitter holds up through this weekend it’ll be a clear sign they had way too many employees.

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