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All the more reasons for us to figure out how to keep getting open models, or we are subject to the will of the the few frontier labs.
Training a frontier model is prohibitively expensive, so it’s understandable that open weights aren’t truly open source. In fact, I worry whether open weights will even survive[1] once the current AI cycle cools down. An even bigger issue is that as long as model development remains this capital intensive, a genuinely open-source community around frontier AI is virtually impossible. That will have massive implications for our careers. The more capital concentrates at the top, the less leverage we’ll have in the job market.
[1] Arguably hardware companies like Nvidia have incentives to subsidize open models to drive GPU demand. That said, I'm not sure how sustainable and sufficient that incentive can be.
[1] For many people, the result is actually the mean not the best, but it's another topic.
It looks like you can assess the hell out of your source code, but your system can still leak if you don't secure your operations.
Cognitive scientists like Margaret Boden used to break creativity into three different categories: combinatory, exploratory, and transformational. It looks like a lot of our programming tasks are really combinatory and exploratory. Yes, they can be deemed novel and creative by individuals, but collectively they are standardized. It's just like finding integrals used to an art, but nowadays Mathematica can do it better to most of the integrals. Mastering special functions used to be the key to solving tricky PDEs, but nowadays few engineering students need to spend multiple semesters learning them. Quasi-RH was considered a Fields-level hard problem, yet AI could brute-force a proof with elaborate estimates. We humans have a brain that can process only a few variables at a time and it took ingenuity and years of effort to master a series of concepts before using them to solve a problem, but that could be just the cost of knowledge transfer, which AI can drive to zero in many cases.
However, the need for creativity does not go away. It just moves more to the transformational category. In addition, our craft will shift to arguably a less romantic tier: problem formulation, verification, and grounding. It will be a painful transition to many people, me included, but we have no choice but to adapt.
Note I'm not ignoring the economical impact of AI. It's very possible that lowering the cost of producing code increases the aggregate appetite for software, but the demand of software engineers can still go down. Even if total code volume explode tenfold, the labor market may not absorb displaced engineers. I wish there are solutions to this pain, but I fail to see what they are.
Take the Quasi-RH proof as an example. At its core, OAI's proof relies on classical tools. It’s essentially a proof by contradiction, constructing conflicting upper and lower bounds. The high-level strategy is standard in my eyes. So why couldn't we humans crack Quasi-RH for so long? My understanding is that we human simply don't have the capacity to grind the solution out: the proof uses 277 estimates with a max depth of 12 layers, plus 64 lemmas. For context: Yau’s proof of the Calabi conjecture used a dozen or so estimates, with the key ones going only 3 layers deep, and that alone took peak Yau two to three years of intense regular work.
A human mathematician's absolute peak only lasts about a decade. It’s basically impossible for a human to pull off a chain of estimates so long, so deep, and so tightly cross-dependent as a machine can, especially when every single estimate has to be razor-sharp and mutually consistent without any conflicts.
But the real question is, why do we think that it's the apocalypse if a question like quasi-RH is solved (if it is solved)? Would it only mean that quasi-RH may not be as hard as we assessed? Or more generally, we thought that some problems were deeply complex and therefore required entire paradigm shift, but it turned out there was a computationally massive solution. So what? It's not like all the problems can be solved through sheer computational search, right? It can even be evaluable for someone to tackle a solved problem from a different angle too, like how Lomonosov solved the invariant surface problem with a new framework, or like how Newton generalized the binomial expansion.
In fact, they are enforcing certain welfare policies, like banning accounts for repeatedly abuse their models.
I have the same optimism as Prof Tao. That said, I can understand why so many mathematicians have been so upset or stressed out. It turned out much of the mathematical work is about clever combination of existing methods - this already requires enormous amount human ingenuity and years of dedicated learning. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, AI can be very good at knowledge transfer and finding combination of existing ideas to solve seemingly impossible problems. Even though mathematicians are extremely smart and capable, only a small number of them are capable of truly inventing "alien ideas", discovering new ground-breaking mathematical structures, or coming up with new problem-solving techniques. That is, AI can eat many mathematicians' cake. That said, I'm still hopeful. Mathematicians still understand mathematics deeply. If someone can prompt AI to solve an important problem, that person is more likely a good mathematician than an average joe like me. So, I think mathematicians do have a bright future: leverage AI, and make more and bigger math discoveries. It's still the same north star: we must know, and we shall know. It's just that with AI, we will know sooner and more.
Previously, due to the cognitive limitations of our brains, it was difficult to tell whether resolving a conjecture genuinely required years of dedicated effort, or if the answer was already hidden within existing human knowledge. Or whether a problem is just waiting to be searched out through ingenious or even brute-force means. With AI, we can now offload this search, especially across different areas of math, allowing us humans to focus our minds on discovering new mathematical structures and techniques.
Indeed, if one believes what Hilbert believed: we must know and we shall know, he should feel happy, as the belief has never been about who solves a problem, but about whether can advance our understanding of the universe. With the help of AI, we have a lot more possibilities.
I'm not sure why this is a surprise. Google most likely uses an efficient yet limited language model to give us search answers. When a search query does not have strong or specific enough context, the model will sample and find what most of the training material will cover. That is, the most likely average behavior covered in the training data. In this case, "hes never coming over dario" is such a generic sentence, so unless Google happens to have indexed what the author mentioned and ranked it high, the answer would appear natural to the AI. Or using the AI jargon, the answer appears to be properly aligned.
People say LLMs will let us build native apps instead of Electron, but is that missing the point? I thought people turned to Electron for a reason: building a fast, rich, collaborative Markdown editor on macOS is notoriously hard. Neither SwiftUI nor AppKit makes handling those rich interactions easy. AI can do wonders, but can it really overcome the inherent limitations of macOS's native UI frameworks?
I'm quite puzzled about why Anthropic is so hellbent on blocking other coding agents. It's not like Claude Code has any secret sauce, right? And doesn't Anthropic make monkey off API usage, and their magic is on the model side anyway?
Very true. Or further, access to capital is the moat. It is the very reason that we don't have a real open-source community that trains frontier models - individuals simply can't afford the training infrastructure, nor sufficient high-quality training data.
If it's true, it makes them evil. Especially Dario, who speaks about moral high ground and fate of humanity all day, yet it's not that different from a cult leader does.