Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regulator in France

Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by numlock86 on Thursday November 17, 2022 @08:21AM (#33638466)

> When a user logged into a voice room closes the DISCORD application window by clicking on the "X" icon at the top right of the window in Microsoft Windows, they actually just put the application in the background and stay logged into the voice room. However, in Microsoft Windows, clicking on the "X" at the top right of the last visible application window will exit the application for the vast majority of applications.

So just the same as Microsoft Teams or the vast majority of nowadays applications.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by occamrazor on Thursday November 17, 2022 @08:24AM (#33638493)

I think Teams shows a pop-up the first time its window is closed.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by xnorswap on Thursday November 17, 2022 @08:28AM (#33638537)

I'm pretty sure teams boots you out of the call too? I'm sure I've left meetings by accident that way before.

( Then again, it's not even clear what "teams" is these days given that I've somehow ended up with 2 completely incompatible copies installed on my machine. )

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by brynjolf on Thursday November 17, 2022 @08:29AM (#33638542)

Teams was more nefarious than that, if you click the x it minimizes the application, if you click exit the application from menu, it keeps a background process alive, ie seperate application, that you need to also exit. I hope they get fined to hell for that since it is so annyoing

They since have seem to have fixed this, but for most of the pandemic it was like as described. Very annoying at the least.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by simiones on Thursday November 17, 2022 @08:42AM (#33638719)

Importantly, Teams will leave a meeting if you exit the Meeting window.

Keeping the meeting going in the background is honestly pretty crazy.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by rtpg on Thursday November 17, 2022 @08:46AM (#33638771)

I think in the Discord model it makes more sense because it's based off of how online gamers flow (basically open a voice chat and stay on there for hours on end).

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by simiones on Thursday November 17, 2022 @09:07AM (#33639042)

It's still outside the norm on Windows I would say, even though I understand why they did it.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by mmis1000 on Thursday November 17, 2022 @09:48AM (#33639567)

Gamers obviously don't talk only when they open discord. They talks in 'game' with discord minimized. It would be dumb if hide discord to background while keep chatting is a manual action by default. But that behaviour can be changed. You can ask discord to exit the app when you click x if you prefer. There is an option for it.

And about teams... who the heck want to be kept in a meeting if they are already ready to close the app?

They are just different mindset.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by lyu07282 on Thursday November 17, 2022 @09:28AM (#33639311)

Its by-design, so you can voice with people while playing multiplayer games.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by simiones on Thursday November 17, 2022 @10:22AM (#33640120)

You can play multiplayer games with a window open though (as long as it doesn't try to stay in front of your game), right?

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by crtasm on Thursday November 17, 2022 @10:26AM (#33640187)

Minimising the window would achieve that, it's not necessary for closing it to also do so.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by lightedman on Thursday November 17, 2022 @10:40AM (#33640449)

Closing the window frees up some video RAM, as you are no longer processing and displaying video streams from the voice/video chat. Minimizing the window keeps that RAM in active use.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by crtasm on Thursday November 17, 2022 @10:53AM (#33640680)

Then that's also an issue that Discord should work on.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by lightedman on Thursday November 17, 2022 @03:05PM (#33644842)

The majority of that issue IIRC lies upon the Microsoft Window Manager, and if true, not much Discord can do about that.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by crtasm on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:10AM (#33656778)

Sure, but if Discord is processing and displaying something, Discord can change that behaviour when it's minimised.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by OrderlyTiamat on Thursday November 17, 2022 @05:22PM (#33646740)

huh? He just explained how that's not how it works. Are you suggesting Discord to mail angry comments to windows' window manager team?

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by crtasm on Friday November 18, 2022 @11:14AM (#33656840)

Discord is choosing to display things and can tell if you have minimised it, they don't need Windows to make any changes.

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Re:Discord Inc. fined 800 000 euros by the CNIL, GDPR regula... by eastbound on Thursday November 17, 2022 @07:31PM (#33648104)

Docker Desktop does the same. You do not want to close Docker when you close the main window, you don’t want Discord notifications to stop (or even the audio call) when you close the main chat window.

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