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Re:My ADHD Founder Toolbox by baby on Thursday November 17, 2022 @01:49AM (#33635783)
As a noob, can you guys give me an idea of what it is to live with ADHD? My understanding is that focus is a spectrum and different people are on different spots on that spectrum. I always imagine that something becomes a condition and gets a name (like ADHD) once it becomes an issue in your life and prevents you from functioning in society. When I hear that you're a staff engineer it sorts of tells me that it's not really an issue for you? Not saying that you don't struggle with focus, but everybody is, I imagine that some people can't even hold a job because of their lack of focus though.
Re:My ADHD Founder Toolbox by nicbou on Thursday November 17, 2022 @02:38AM (#33636038)
It's a tough one, because the symptoms are relatable to most ("isn't that everybody?"). They're just more intense than for most, and come with unexpected "features" like executive disfunction. The intensity also varies from a person to another, and the severity depends on a person's lifestyle.

The lack of focus is a lure, an oversimplification. It's not just "I can't focus on something I don't like to do". It's more like "halfway into making a cup of coffee, the most important thing in my life became to clean the pantry". Imagine running late, but stopping dead in your tracks with only one sock on, and answering an email. You know it's mad, but you can't help it.

However if you have a job that's lenient enough, you can hide it well. I stopped treatment because I couldn't gather enough data. My job was too easy to know if it worked. It's still the case.

Another thing is that a lot of people learned to cope with it for decades before getting diagnosed. Their life is full of alarms and error-catching mechanisms, so the symptoms are well-managed. If you know your strengths and weaknesses, you pick your battles. It's not an issue unless your battles are picked for you.

Re:My ADHD Founder Toolbox by OkayPhysicist on Friday November 18, 2022 @05:20PM (#33663234)
I think for outreach, hammering on executive disfunction is the best way to go. It's the most alien to the neurotypical, and it most clearly paints ADHD as a disability, rather than a mere personality trait. And rather than talking about failing to focus on things you don't want to do, talk about failing to focus on things you want to do, but simply fail to produce incremental enough satisfaction to remain focused on. Like, before I got medicated, I would want to watch a movie. I would enjoy watching a movie. But you better bet I'd be getting up, checking my phone, going to the restroom out of sheer restlessness, etc, instead of doing the thing I wanted to be doing: watching the damn movie.
Re:My ADHD Founder Toolbox by Doxin on Thursday November 17, 2022 @02:35AM (#33636015)
> something becomes a condition and gets a name (like ADHD) once it becomes an issue in your life and prevents you from functioning in society.

It gets named once it becomes an issue in life. It doesn't need to be as bad as being unable to function to get diagnosed.

Re:My ADHD Founder Toolbox by thevagrant on Thursday November 17, 2022 @03:22AM (#33636273)
It's like hearing a lot of noises up close and loud but then noticing they are far away. They distract you. The clock ticking. The tap dripping. The person on the other side of the office eating crisps. Ok, turn back to your desk and focus. Got to finish this task.

"Hey John, did you fix that problem with the DB log crash?"

You look up, realize John and the boss are on the other side of the room and you are not part of the discussion.

You put your mind back to that task. Reading the product documentation, "click click, someone across from you taps their keyboard" ... wow, you noticed that 1 hour 30 minutes suddenly passed but you do not recall much of the documentation you just read.

Getting back to it.. a friend messages you a funny joke on whatsapp. 20 minutes of chit chat go by and you realize most of your team already left the office to go home.

There are also other things like fatigue. You'll be able to force yourself to keep up but it takes a toll and eventually you fatigue. Productivity then drops massively and people think you are a slacker.

Re:My ADHD Founder Toolbox by badpun on Thursday November 17, 2022 @04:09AM (#33636562)
Isn't it just how normal people perceive life? That's why so many people are happy not to work in the offices after all, or, when in office, wear headphones for hours.
Re:My ADHD Founder Toolbox by thevagrant on Thursday November 17, 2022 @05:38AM (#33637151)
On balance there are measurable effects that substantially impact the person over their lifetime. More likely to not finish tasks, assignments, schooling (dropout or poor grades that dont reflect capability). Poor impulse management leading to bad finances, addictions etc. The symptoms start in childhood and over time these small paper cuts accumulate. As an adult the adhd individual often has extremely low self esteem (and very often comorbid depression), even if they do not show it.
Re:My ADHD Founder Toolbox by Eumenes on Thursday November 17, 2022 @08:54AM (#33638878)
Idk, sounds like normal day to day life to me.
Re:My ADHD Founder Toolbox by 0o_o0 on Thursday November 17, 2022 @03:39AM (#33636368)
It feels normal. Until you talk to more people and realize you aren’t normal and you don’t actually suck and you might be able to get it together and have a reasonable life if you chain yourself to daily meds and sleep enough and exercise enough and have routines and build 20 other environmental tweaks, guardrails, and micro habits.

There’s some breakdown between wanting things and being able to do them. Wanting to do the things but letting down everyone (teachers, friends, family, self). The thing you can’t do might be chores (frustrated that the house is a mess but unable to make it not a mess), keeping up with friends or family (never keeping in touch enough), hobbies (never able to focus long enough to really make progress), work (continuing to function after the initial learning curve wears off), being able to focus long enough to read books you want to read, having conversations with people who prefer to have one conversation at a time instead of four, listening patiently and not interrupting as someone continues explaining the thing you picked up on after their fifth word and they’re on their fifth sentence now…

Everything falls apart slowly and it’s easy to get frustrated with yourself and lose hope. Meds help but being chained to them is a shitty feeling too. They’re a pain to get and require frequent check-ins as stimulants are controlled substances in the USA. The other non-medicine interventions all help in little ways that add up too.

Re:My ADHD Founder Toolbox by RHSman2 on Thursday November 17, 2022 @05:36PM (#33646924)
Life falling apart and you go play in the woods ;)