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Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by aeonik on Friday November 11, 2022 @07:07AM (#33559747)
I honestly really like these types of shared temp offices. I've used them before, but my work won't reimburse me for their use, and they cost more than a coffee shop.

Some coffee shops in my area also have built in meeting rooms at very reasonable prices.

Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by trh0awayman on Friday November 11, 2022 @07:23AM (#33559920)
I bought a yearly zoo membership, which is where I work most days now. I get to hang with the animals after work, and there are plenty of quiet, forgotten spaces within zoos. The zoo cafeterias/cafes are basically empty on weekdays, so I just bop around day to day.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by jpm_sd on Friday November 11, 2022 @07:31AM (#33559994)
Wow, I love this idea! I already have a zoo membership and an aquarium membership...

I wish my body handled laptop ergonomics better. I just can't deal with it for days on end, got to have my desktop, big monitor, fancy mouse and comfy chair.

Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by JacobDotVI on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:37AM (#33560655)
Try a roost stand (or equivalent) and external keyboard and track pad (I use the smallish apple ones). This has saved my posture when working from outside my office. It’s not the equivalent of the home base setup but it’s good enough that my neck isn’t screaming at me at the end of the day
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by urban_strike on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:47AM (#33560744)
Another vote for a folding stand + separate keyboard and mouse at desk-level. I'm always working outside the house, and once you can adjust to working on a single monitor it's been great ergonomically.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by JohnAaronNelson on Friday November 11, 2022 @07:31AM (#33559997)
That’s super creative. I’ve never heard of someone doing something like this before.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by ct0 on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:25AM (#33560553)
Im surprised to see the alternative of a zoo higher than say, a library. Imagine being on a call with a potential vendor and hearing a monkey in the background.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by moogly on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:42AM (#33560692)
Imagine being in a library and some asshole in your vicinity is on a work call.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by ct0 on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:45AM (#33560717)
People do talk in libraries.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by tartoran on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:39AM (#33560664)
Just a perfect day

Feed animals in the zoo

Then later, a movie too

And then home

Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by bombcar on Friday November 11, 2022 @09:34AM (#33561267)
As if the secret isn't handing the phone (and perhaps the laptop) TO the monkey and then taking a nice nap.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by joxel on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:00AM (#33560286)
Zoos depress me. Do you really have no problems seeings the locked up animals the entire time? Does seeing a tiger in a cage for the 200th time give you excitement or something? Seems weird.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by bombcar on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:15AM (#33560444)
Some zoos are better than others. The San Diego Safari park for example, and even somewhat their zoo, is pretty wide open using pits instead of cages.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by mathieuh on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:43AM (#33560705)
A rose by any other name...
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by joenot443 on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:49AM (#33560764)
I think zoos can be depressing because we like to imagine animals as experiencing life the same way we do, in which boredom becomes paralyzing after a couple hours.

Growing up on a hobby farm with chickens and horses, I never got the impression the animals were unhappy. I think if the option were given to most mammals, they'd choose life in captivity cage with fresh food every day and eventually a peaceful passing over a hungry life in the wild which eventually ends in becoming prey.

Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by bombcar on Friday November 11, 2022 @09:33AM (#33561250)
Sometimes you see animals doing things that pretty much indicates they don't like what they're in (a panther pacing back and forth in a 20x20 cage all day, for example) but with a larger enclosure I think we can say they're "satisfied" insofar as animals can be satisfied. It's probably better than being a pet for most of them.

The "wild animal park" near San Diego has a 300 acre enclosure, for example. That's pretty darn big, and it houses various "compatible" animals.

https://sandiegozoowildlifealliance.org/sites/default/files/...

Of course, the depressing part of the little tram tour is the "and over here is the last male of this species". The good part is the park was started as a breeding ground for endangered species (animals don't breed well in small enclosures) and that has been pretty successful.

Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by nunez on Friday November 11, 2022 @09:18AM (#33561064)
Many of the animals in well-run (AZA-accredited) zoos are rescues that were injured in some way or another. They're given the best food they can eat, do not have to worry about predators, and receive amazing treatment throughout their entire stays. So I'd like to think that "locked up" is better than "dead" in this instance.

In addition, zoos are also responsible for re-populating vulnerable or endangered species. Zoos spend a lot of money on this. They also return healthy animals back into the wild in service of this.

See the AZA's standards on animal care here: https://www.aza.org/animal-management?locale=en

As far as looking at a tiger for the 200th time goes, I mean, I never get tired of the dumb shit one of our cats does, and we've seen him way more than 200 times now! (We got him at three months old; he's 8 now.) I love getting glimpses into other animals that you would normally never see!

Now, there are definitely shitty zoos that actually do capture and lock up animals purely for entertainment, with patrons none the wiser to it. The most popular "aquarium" in Houston, for example, is actually a restaurant and is not AZA-accredited, which is usually (not always) an indicator that the animals are abused and mistreated.

Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by joxel on Friday November 11, 2022 @09:27AM (#33561169)
Thanks for sharing these details. I've visited some places specifically marketed as "rescues" in my area (such as the Raptor Center in Charlotte, NC), but didn't realize some zoos have the same standards without explicitly promoting it.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by nunez on Friday November 11, 2022 @02:33PM (#33565615)
Sure thing. Zoos are incredibly organized!
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by nunez on Friday November 11, 2022 @06:05PM (#33568019)
I can't edit this anymore but another thing to point out about the link above is that one of the subpages contains care manuals for several types of popular animals and the statuses of other care manuals in AZA's pipeline that are being reviewed for publication.

These manuals are INSANELY detailed. There is absolutely no question that the keepers who helped create these manuals genuinely care about the animals they tend to. (Some of the manuals specify how large exhibits should be depending on whether the animals are staying on exhibit for a while or are preparing for a transition back into the wild!)

Folks that are on engineering organizations (like IEEE) or working groups (like the Kubernetes or Bluetooth SIGs) might appreciate the nuances here!

I also learned that zoologists from Disney's Animal Kingdom are HUGE contributors to these manuals and that Walt Disney himself was key in inspiring zoos to shift away from entertainment and towards conservation!

Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by ethagknight on Friday November 11, 2022 @09:54AM (#33561534)
Strongly disagree. Bad zoos are depressing. Good zoos can be amazing.

Yes, popping down to the Memphis Zoo for a few hours gives me and my family great joy. The animals are not free to roam the plains, but they are free from constant predation. More importantly, Zoos can be wonderful cultural centers, animal research, preservers of at risk species, educational and environmental education, on and on. Does it really seem that weird?

HOWEVER, Memphis Zoo smells like… a zoo… and hard pass on that for a work day.

Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by kylehotchkiss on Sunday November 13, 2022 @01:10AM (#33580546)
This is brilliant... I also have a zoo membership and really want to try this now.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by topicseed on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:34AM (#33560620)
I like coffeeshops but moved to a WeWork because my issue with coffeeshops is, working alone, how do I go for a toilet break N times a day? What if I come back and my seat is taken, and I was in the flow of things? It's just not very convenient for more than two hours or so sadly.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by joenot443 on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:40AM (#33560679)
Just leave your things and ask the person next to you to watch your stuff for a moment? I've done that probably hundreds of times and never had an issue.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by topicseed on Friday November 11, 2022 @08:53AM (#33560806)
In very big cities, this is a huge gamble on top of being a lot of faith put into a stranger.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by joenot443 on Friday November 11, 2022 @09:02AM (#33560885)
Well if you're working there every day and so are they, one would hope they're not a stranger anymore :) Also, no one's stopping you from bringing your laptop to the bathroom if you're worried the person you asked is going to steal it. I've personally never been in a restaurant or co-working space where I didn't feel comfortable asking a stranger to watch my stuff, but perhaps we frequent different places.

It's one of those things where you just need to flex some social and observational muscles, remember your priors, and make a decision.

What can you discern about the person you're asking? What kind of trends or aggregates can you use to decide if this is the kind of person who's going to steal your stuff? Are you in a nice part of Manhattan, or are you in the Tenderloin? Lots of factors, naturally. It's the kind of thing you have to decide for yourself in the moment, but I'd hope most people intelligent enough to be reading this have the social awareness to know when it makes sense to put your trust in strangers like that.

Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by reaperducer on Friday November 11, 2022 @09:19AM (#33561077)
In very big cities, this is a huge gamble on top of being a lot of faith put into a stranger.

I've done this thousands of times in cities from New York to Los Angeles, and never had a problem. It's part of modern cafe culture.

If you're worried, you take your computer with you and leave your wires and stuff behind to mark your place.

Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by bombcar on Friday November 11, 2022 @09:35AM (#33561277)
Now I'm imagining a laptop with a suction base that "sucks down" onto the table and won't let go until you login.
Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by reaperducer on Friday November 11, 2022 @12:05PM (#33563403)
There used to be a Mac program for this situation ("There's an app for that!", right?)

You start the program and it counts down from 10. At zero it disables sleep, and displays a warning screen stating that the computer is alarmed and should not be moved by anyone but the owner.

When the owner returns, he enters a password to end the program.

If anyone tries to move the computer in his absence, the vibration sensor triggers a screeching alarm.

Re:WeWork exits 40 U.S. locations after tepid forecast by tdeck on Friday November 11, 2022 @12:52PM (#33564115)
If your laptop has a Kensington lock slot you can lock it with a cable that wraps around a table leg.