Yandex mail is better and it allows custom domain for free.

Yeah, but:

a) a lot of places block Russia and China wholesale against spam

b) they'e hosted in a genocidal regime without rule of law completely beholden to a dictator's whims.

Pass.

What do you trust? Reuters? The UN? Russia? I don't believe you're actually open to the idea. Prove me / us wrong by saying what it'll take to change your mind, or by saying you're not open to anything.

Asking for sources is fine, but show your own work as well.

How is it better? as far as i know the other options are more feature rich

It offers IMAP and POP, which the Zoho free plan dropped some time back.

Their inbound spam filtering may also be better, given that they have more volume than Zoho to train on.

A lot of place also block it due to Yandex being full of spam accounts, even on custom domains. Not sure I'd ever trust something from them and would actively block their services.

It is not free anymore.

I moved off Zoho when they dropped support for 'basic' email features like POP and IMAP access, which forces you to use their web or mobile app.

I need unified inbox otherwise I will forget to check it.

I thought they grandfathered free accounts that were using those.

But yeah, you have to pay for that stuff now. Personally I think it’s reasonable to have the free plan stripped down like that. It’s better than what Microsoft and Google did.

They did grandfather it in, so if you had it before, you have it now and there is no reason for someone to drop because of it - until Zoho changes it for the grandfathered accounts...

Perhaps it's a pro only feature now or something? I just set up a client's phone to use Zoho with IMAP.

Yeah I think it moved to paid sadly. But custom domain is amazing

What? I still use IMAP on free tier without issues. Is this only for new accounts?

edit: Damn, I just read the sibling account. Kind of nervous now, I hope they won't drop this any time soon for grandfathered accounts.

Hello all,

As someone mentioned, our free plan doesn't support IMAP, POP and ActiveSync. But this was implemented only for newer accounts and the existing accounts which had the support earlier, continue to enjoy the features without any additional costs. So if your account was created earlier, you would have IMAP/ POP support without any issues.

Regards, ZohoMail

I'm very happy with fastmail on my custom domain. They even have tools for managing your dns records.

And serving a static site, if you're especially lazy. :)

I just use domain forwarding to have my inbound emails to my custom domain address land in my plain old Gmail account, and outbound ones to forward to my domain. All the benefits of Gmail at no cost.

Voluntarily routing all your email to the free service offered by the data mining ad company is foolish.

Are your outbound emails signed?

any tips on setting this up

last i checked (about half a year ago), they didn’t support IPv6. a tired meme, but it actually has economic impacts on my self-hoster friends. almost all ISPs block the SMTP port, and it’s way cheaper (free, even) to get an unblocked IPv6 address than an IPv4 one just because of address exhaustion. so if i used Zoho i’d kinda be forcing them to pay more if they want to be able to reach me :/

I don't get it. Your friends wouldn't be paying to connect to your Ipv4.

I think the idea is that he has friends with SMTP outbound that is only capable of ipv6. Zoho doesn't listen on any ipv6 addresses, and doesn't have any MX records that map to AAAA/ipv6, so mail from them doesn't get to Zoho.

Though I suspect Zoho is not the only medium sized email provider that doesn't support ipv6.

> almost all ISPs block the SMTP port,

Is that a US thing? Or which country are you talking about? I’ve never had any port blocked in Germany.

Yes, definitely. One example:

https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/list-of-blocked-por...

I am Barath and I am a lead customer satisfaction engineer from Zoho Mail team.

We have been working on supporting IPv6 for a while now and are in the final stages of rollout. We will start supporting IPv6 for incoming email reception by this month, This will be rolled out in a phased manner and will be supported for all the accounts by the end of 2022.

Similarly for outgoing email relay, we expect the IPv6 support to be rolled out by the end of Q1 2023.

Regards, Zoho Mail

Google workspaces in India costs 125 rupees a month. That's around $1.5. Use a VPN + an international debit card (or wise.com) to pay Google in rupees? Is there a real downside to this?

> Is there a real downside to this?

Google figuring out you are not in India and blocking your account

Ah, yep, they seem on to this:

https://support.google.com/a/answer/6175301?hl=en

For some people the downside would be using Google, and/or jumping all that hoops.

For that price I rather use Migadu, that has a 19$ Year plan.

Remember, if Google blocks you they'll likely block your personal accounts too.

Migadu is another awesome email solution. For my family and myself, we're on the "Micro" plan which works out to be 1.5 USD per month (but paid yearly). For smaller organizations and projects, we're on the "Mini" plan which is 9 USD per month.

Super cheap, very reliable and easy to setup. Never had any issues in the years I've been using it. I'm not associated with them, just a happy user that wishes them all the best.

https://www.migadu.com/pricing/

They also have a page about their pros/cons: https://www.migadu.com/procon/

If nothing else, it's one of the more honest pieces of company writing out there, although some of the things could be dealbreakers for some people. I suggest that you check it out, it's written in a pretty straightforward and easy to understand language and lays everything bare.

their support is great too. same guy every time for me, and they remember you. just dont use them for business email, though they will accommodate it briefly if you're setting up a baby saas. they'll let you know theyre not a volume sender solution

Charged per (Migadu) account, too - not per user. Seems like you can have basically unlimited users/domains per account, which is nice.

Not being able to spawn random addresses (payments@, contact@) without paying really turns me off a lot of other providers.

I'm on migadu, but the problem remains the same: I can't find a decent email client.

Either the client is bundled with email, but then the email doesn't support multidomain and multi user (or have to pay for each, which is bad), or it's just not shared between web and android.

If I could solve this, I would be able to uninatall gmail, which right now I use uniquely as an email client.

Used to be a paid customer, nowadays using its free email with custom domain, for the last 8 years. Thanks Zoho email!

I work at inbox.eu.

You can use it for free if you are ok with sending max 3 emails per day. You need to verify mobile phone or verify account via Telegram for free acounts. Also 9.99 EUR per year for premium account is one of the lowest prices available in the market from professional email providers :)

> or verify account via Telegram for free acounts

This is great! I'm signing up right now!

Do you have peering? Where are you hosted?

I can asks admins about peering. I have no idea as am am developer :)

We are hosted in Latvia (DEAC data centers) and we manage our servers on our own

Yes please! I'd love to know.

Also, how many people does your team have? :)

Yandex offers a custom domain too

FWIW They do way more than email … it has been fascinaa sad to g to watch them grow over many years. Their initial devs were school dropouts.

Fascinating … typo