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Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by devmor on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @08:32PM (#33540976)
Unfortunately even the most prolific and very successful CEOs and management in our industry often fail to understand this.

A couple years ago I was rejected from a 3rd round interview for a very large company that should have known better for the primary reason that my "coding challenge" exercise didn't meet an arbitrary lines of code minimum, despite meeting all of their requirements.

And of course we have the recent example of a certain chief Twit firing engineers based on LoC.

Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by shepherdjerred on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @08:35PM (#33541007)
> an arbitrary lines of code minimum, despite meeting all of their requirements.

There's no way this is true right? Why would anyone care about LoC for a coding challenge?

Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by bitL on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @09:03PM (#33541225)
Some "old school" management styles measure LoC and make hiring/firing decisions based on that. Really.
Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by tartoran on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @09:29PM (#33541450)
Someone should enlighten them that less LOC is good in solving a problem, granted that the code is also more maintenable due to smaller surface area and no bad shortcuts were taken. Yes, it’s hard for management types to get that, perhaps because most of them want the problems entrenchability creates, and that for their own … benefits.
Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by grangerg on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:39PM (#33541891)
Perhaps tell them the story of the 10x carpenter.

Obviously, the one who uses the most wood wins! ;) If told right, they should easily figure out why LoC is a horrible metric.

Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by sokoloff on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:11PM (#33542099)
Or airplane builder…
Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by heromal on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:50PM (#33541985)
I had a recruiter ask me a few days ago, on behalf of the HM, how many lines of code I've written in my career. I told him that's a very weird question, and said nothing else. Needless to say, they're passing on me.
Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by eurasiantiger on Thursday November 10, 2022 @12:26AM (#33542599)
It might have been an estimation task, akin to a Fermi problem.
Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by ianmcgowan on Thursday November 10, 2022 @02:07AM (#33543208)
That's charitable, but leads to a new "how many manhole" questions - how many programmers in NYC will write fizzbuzz on a whiteboard this week?
Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by tasuki on Thursday November 10, 2022 @01:44PM (#33551149)
If fizz buzz took you ten thousand lines, I'd care!
Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by bheadmaster on Thursday November 10, 2022 @02:23AM (#33543293)
> And of course we have the recent example of a certain chief Twit firing engineers based on LoC.

Is there any evidence of this claim that isn't yellow press and random gossip on Twitter?

Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by juped on Thursday November 10, 2022 @03:54AM (#33543906)
No.
Re:I strive to be a 0.1x Engineer (2016) by devmor on Thursday November 10, 2022 @02:57PM (#33552270)
When you discount firsthand reports from the people involved, of course there isn't going to be much left.