I wanted to like these, but these are some ugly frames compared to some of Lux's Italian-made frames. Same deal with a lot of discount frames (including some from Luxottica) - very old styling and cheap looking materials. But to each his own - I'm sure some people will like Shuron and maybe I'm not up on the latest trends.

It's true, Shurons are retro style frames. And some of them are...eccentric to say the least. But the zyl they use is pretty high quality compared to others. My faves are either the Sidewinder or the Ronsir Zyl (the latter is the original "browline" style frame as worn by Malcolm X).

  > very old styling

Correction: Original styling. These were the guys who invented that styling. The problem is, they've hardly innovated styling at all for decades.

Yes, Shuron invented the classic "browline" frame and that's why Shuron Ronsirs are what Hollywood used for frames in "JFK" and "Malcolm X". Pretty sure they also invented the "cat's eye" style frames for women, too.

italian made? lol… china made

Probably Italian designed China made