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Re:The most unethical thing I was asked to build while worki... by adastra22 on Monday November 07, 2022 @05:12PM (#33513292)
No, they don’t. In the absence of drag, which only the lowest satellites have, they just stay up there forever. The fuel is needed for orbit changes and correcting drift due to gravitational instabilities.
Re:The most unethical thing I was asked to build while worki... by lovich on Monday November 07, 2022 @05:28PM (#33513459)
And all the dragless satellites around the earth are focusing on documenting as all the frictionless spherical cows on the earth
Re:The most unethical thing I was asked to build while worki... by drdeca on Monday November 07, 2022 @05:18PM (#33513361)
Are any of them truly free of drag? Like, are there 0 molecules of atmosphere at some height, or just entirely negligible amounts of atmosphere for all practical purposes?
Re:The most unethical thing I was asked to build while worki... by denkmoon on Monday November 07, 2022 @06:03PM (#33513790)
None. In theory there are parts of space that are a true vacuum but not everywhere, and definitely not near planetary bodies.

There's a reason our satellites need station-keeping fuel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_station-keeping

Re:The most unethical thing I was asked to build while worki... by lmm on Monday November 07, 2022 @06:03PM (#33513791)
Even in deep space there are something like two atoms per cubic meter just "there". But atmospheric density drops exponentially with altitude.
Re:The most unethical thing I was asked to build while worki... by adastra22 on Monday November 07, 2022 @06:45PM (#33514168)
Yeah anything above about ~1000km or so is essentially zero drag.
Re:The most unethical thing I was asked to build while worki... by tomrod on Monday November 07, 2022 @07:04PM (#33514332)
It adds up. Also, Kessler syndrome potential is not negligible.
Re:The most unethical thing I was asked to build while worki... by adastra22 on Monday November 07, 2022 @07:06PM (#33514353)
Kessler syndrome is important but somewhat unrelated.

Beyond LEO the drag is really negligible in the sense that other factors (e.g. gravitational abnormalities, the moon) have larger effects.

Re:The most unethical thing I was asked to build while worki... by DFHippie on Monday November 07, 2022 @05:39PM (#33513550)
IANAP ("I am not a physicist"), but any two objects in orbit around their common center of gravity are slowly radiating energy into space in the form of gravity waves. This is why LIGO reports its chirps. Of course, this isn't very much energy, but given enough time all should orbits collapse.
Re:The most unethical thing I was asked to build while worki... by adastra22 on Tuesday November 08, 2022 @06:02AM (#33517951)
I am a physicist. The gravitational energy loss from planet + satellite scale orbiting bodies is so small as to be orders of magnitude less than, say, the influence of gravitational anomalies like the Himalayas, or the tidal pull of the Moon.