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Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap by gorbachev on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @07:08AM (#33433926)
That's definitely why I stopped using TomTom. Like gambiting, I really liked their product. They were compact, fast and the UX was great. But Google Maps is free.
Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap by rapind on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @07:28AM (#33434079)
> But Google Maps is free.

We need a new alternative word for "free" when it comes to advertising companies. Something short to say "the cost is too abstract and indirect to understand fully or describe, but does impact society at large". Maybe "free-ish"?

Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap by diydsp on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @07:52AM (#33434246)
Hear, hear! One suggestion: costs a drop of blood.
Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap by teddyh on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @07:13PM (#33444180)
More like a pound of flesh.
Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap by frankfrankfrank on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @07:57AM (#33434283)
That is all already assumed by the word free, if one understands it, which most do not.

Nothing is truly free as people commonly conceptualizer it in their mind. Just alone receiving something at all comes with strings, even if they are not apparent. There is a term that describes this issue rather well in German, “vogelfrei”. It refers to being as free as a bird, which is assumed to be a great thing, but it also means you are free to be hunted and predated.

Free is also the theme of a deal with the devil. I will self-censor here a bit about what is the devil, because the devil’s censorship is more consequential than if I do it to myself for the time being.

Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap by saiya-jin on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @08:46AM (#33434823)
There is no free lunch. Its more like you expect some idealized absolutism in market economy from people who need to eat and pay their mortgages. Its uncommon to meet an adult with such expectations, its mostly reserved for children up to certain age.
Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap by rapind on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @10:45AM (#33436653)
> It’s uncommon to meet an adult with such expectations

I don’t think this is an accurate assumption. Many adults probably have a nagging feeling about this version of free, I doubt most of us can accurately describe the cost (and most wouldn’t care to try).

I mean it really does “feel” free in that the costs are so abstract and externalized. In fact I’d argue that it has completely changed our perspective on pricing, value, and entitlement.

Anyways, total tangent to the main topic.

Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap by yencabulator on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @02:15PM (#33440471)
"Costless" or "zero-payment".
Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap by ferongr on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @02:49PM (#33441021)
Google Maps is "free" in the same way healthcare is "free" in many countries. The usage of the word seems fine.
Re:TomTom announces new Maps Platform using OpenStreetMap by caf on Wednesday November 02, 2022 @06:53PM (#33443976)
Closer to free-to-air TV.